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Post by crimmyj on Nov 1, 2014 18:23:15 GMT -5
Spike is from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Many (I would argue wrongly) compare Damon character to Spike's...except the writers on Buffy took care to actually write a very compelling redemption and atonement arc for Spike, and the writers on TVD can't seem to figure out how to do that for Damon. Which is one of the reasons that Buffy (imo) has been and will always be the superior show to TVD, superior writing and a strong moral compass. IMO, the two shows are not comparable, for the reasons you mentioned and more. I see a lot of similarities between TVD and BtVS/Angel, but the one that hits me the most is Stefan (who, btw, is TVD's version of Angel; the good, heroic vampire with his hero hair who back in the day was one of the most murderous vampires to roam the earth) being locked inside a metal coffin and thrown to the bottom of the ocean to starve for months. Just like Angel was. Nice parallel. Also The shot in the promo of Damon and Elena on opposite sides of the door very reminiscent of a scene of Buffy and Spike doing the very same thing (when Buffy was trying to resist the urge to be with soulless Spike) Let's just hope no one then gets any ideas to give Stefan a Connor baby!! Season 1-3 Stefan is definitely the most comparable TVD character to a BTVS character, Season 1-3 BTVS Angel. But I think after those seasons the character comparisons start to differ. I do miss those shows and those characters. *sigh*
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Post by shoe20 on Nov 1, 2014 20:33:47 GMT -5
I think shoe20 took a satchel or bushel... or whatever cowboy speak for "a lot" is in his area of the country. He was definitely foaming at the mouth there. lol Guy should probably watch his blood pressure. I wouldn't be surprised if he collapsed one of these days while wailing about the evils of Damon. This show will be the death of him. Literally! LOL Satchel of pills..... "D", you should have gone for "Peck of Pills"..... BP is fine thanks.... Big Picture here is Damon is on track this season for a redemption arc, and I have to get my last chance "barbs" in, before he goes "good guy" Besides you know I'm a "closet" Damon lover, right How do you want that crow served if Plec and Dries go there??? I suggest "blackened crow" has to be better than fried or baked.
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Post by napoli on Nov 1, 2014 21:03:37 GMT -5
There's no redemption arc for Damon this season although I'm super jealous that no one has been sharing their pills.
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Post by demetra on Nov 1, 2014 21:15:25 GMT -5
I love that idea, demetra. You are far more clever than TVD writers. Plec, give demetra a job! Maybe she can work on the Originals. I hear that's her favorite show.
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Post by demetra on Nov 1, 2014 21:21:50 GMT -5
Some of us took our grumpy pills this morning. Why?! Damon's back. Even I am happy to see him,although it could have been a hilarious yet touching counterpoint if Stefan had been able to see Damon wearing his old shirt. That last scene was perfect. There's no need to add or take away from it. But I can see how that might have been hilarious. Though it would've undermined the mood they were going for. "Some of us took our grumpy pills this morning."I think shoe20 took a satchel or bushel... or whatever cowboy speak for "a lot" is in his area of the country. He was definitely foaming at the mouth there. lol Guy should probably watch his blood pressure. I wouldn't be surprised if he collapsed one of these days while wailing about the evils of Damon. This show will be the death of him. Literally! Yes, that last scene was perfect. I've watched it quite a few times. Were I both writing and directing, I would start the very next episode exactly where it left off, so as not to ruin Damon 's return--and then just go on for a few seconds more where Stefan would pull back with a quizzical look and say "Is that my shirt?" Then move on into a totally different scene.
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Post by napoli on Nov 1, 2014 21:31:10 GMT -5
Yes, that last scene was perfect. I've watched it quite a few times. Were I both writing and directing, I would start the very next episode exactly where it left off, so as not to ruin Damon 's return--and then just go on for a few seconds more where Stefan would pull back with a quizzical look and say "Is that my shirt?" Then move on into a totally different scene. See, you should be writing. I would like that to happen.
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Post by shoe20 on Nov 1, 2014 21:32:37 GMT -5
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Post by napoli on Nov 1, 2014 21:49:24 GMT -5
As long as you realise I need the pills but you need to cut down. Actually, that's not true. Your posts have been dead on. Everyone should be taking whatever you're on.
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Post by demetra on Nov 2, 2014 7:44:16 GMT -5
Did everyone see those three dancing penguins, or was it only me?
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Post by deb on Nov 2, 2014 18:05:24 GMT -5
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Post by shoe20 on Nov 2, 2014 20:50:22 GMT -5
sry deb...... that looks sucky......I'm not on the edge of my seat. lol
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Post by napoli on Nov 2, 2014 21:39:59 GMT -5
I know what you mean. It almost looks as though Alaric and Caroline are going to make Stefan feel unnecessarily guilty again.
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Post by demetra on Nov 2, 2014 22:47:44 GMT -5
I love Stefan, but come on. He's been a total doofus to Caroline. He turned into Tyler, for goodness sake. That business of dumping Ivy on Caroline, slipping the ring under Caroline's door, trying to get Ric to compel Ivy to behave, then skedaddling out of town. Talk about doofus boy behaviour. And it's almost comical how poorly he's behaved towards Ivy. I do have higher standards for Stefan. He can certainly behave better than he has been. Lexi wouldn't have put up with it.
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Post by Kiki on Nov 3, 2014 0:00:56 GMT -5
Remember how elena behaved the last 2 seasons and alaric, caroline and everyone else gives her no guilt for it. Why are they not willing to forgive stefan..??
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Post by katvolley13 on Nov 3, 2014 6:53:13 GMT -5
I think stefen knowsvcaroline has feelings for him and he is trying to push her away because he will always love elena as said vampires love for eternally.
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