TVD Season 5 Theories

[damonsgirl]

Nov 4, 2013 11:48:33 GMT -5 Kiki said:

somehow this whole Silas thing doesn't work. He is a mortal witch now. If he dies as a witch he will go to the other side therefore he needs to destroy the other side BEFORE he dies. If the other side is destroyed the dead supernaturals who are stuck in there will move on to the place where all dead people will go which is exactly where Silas wants to go. So if he destroys the other side BEFORE he dies Bonnie will already have moved on to the place where all dead people are. Can Silas' death bring her back from there?

As you say, Bonnie will cross over too unless they have to do a huge spell thingy to swap lives at the same time they destroy the other side, a bit like the sacrifice in S2.

[shoe20]

Yep, Like I said....saw the Amara / Anchor thing coming....next the knife as the tool to kill her.....Augestine Vampire will be Elena's dad. ... and the one that may cause me to pull the plug.....(really hope I'm wrong)  Stefan's one true love is Elena but she's connected to Damon.  That's right Damon's.... Stefan's half-brother and a doppelganger too.  So the three years of SE were all per-ordained and not an Epic love.

Pretty sure the Knife and Augestine predictions will pan out.  God, I hope I'm wrong about the last one.

[Kiki]

so Katherine is aging fast now that Silas drank the cure out of her system. Will the same happen to Silas now that Amara drank the cure from him?

[Deleted]

Nov 8, 2013 7:53:52 GMT -5 Kiki said:

so Katherine is aging fast now that Silas drank the cure out of her system. Will the same happen to Silas now that Amara drank the cure from him?

Amara only took a sip from Silas' blood.

[Kiki]

Nov 8, 2013 8:56:30 GMT -5 moshe12 said:

Nov 8, 2013 7:53:52 GMT -5 Kiki said:

so Katherine is aging fast now that Silas drank the cure out of her system. Will the same happen to Silas now that Amara drank the cure from him?

Amara only took a sip from Silas' blood.

well unless Silas is a fast drinker he didn't take much more from Katherine either

[Kiki]

another thought just crossed my mind...
Doppelgängers were invented by nature to keep the balance. Bonnie died to keep nature's balance when Jeremy came back to life..... Who is nature's balance? I mean who did create the doppelgängers? Someone has to have the Keep-the-balance-job, right? Was it Tessa or maybe Amara? Or someone else?
Or is the doppelgänger just a physical reaction to someone becoming imortal? What would be the physical reaction if that person becomes mortal again? With all the imortal > mortal > witchy > vampy swipswap nature must be shaking like a boat in a hurricane

[stelena4ever]

Nov 8, 2013 11:26:07 GMT -5 Kiki said:

another thought just crossed my mind...
Doppelgängers were invented by nature to keep the balance. Bonnie died to keep nature's balance when Jeremy came back to life..... Who is nature's balance? I mean who did create the doppelgängers? Someone has to have the Keep-the-balance-job, right? Was it Tessa or maybe Amara? Or someone else?
Or is the doppelgänger just a physical reaction to someone becoming imortal? What would be the physical reaction if that person becomes mortal again? With all the imortal > mortal > witchy > vampy swipswap nature must be shaking like a boat in a hurricane

The man upstairs had to create the doppelgangers.

[Deleted]

Pondering about Damons horrifying discovery in 5x08 and wondering if Elenas father Grayson Gilbert is the Augustine vampire.

[teppy1]

Okay so they said that the dopplegangers are there to create balance - there has to be a version of them that can die. If the purpose of them is truly just so one can die why are there multiple version that can die? I mean Stefan died--- and all the other "stefans" died soooo. Why were there multiple doppelgangers? I have a feeling that it might have more to do with what Tessa was saying about destiny has been wanting the dopplegangers together FOREVER. Maybe it is good verses evil. Like the doppleganger are driven created by a "good" and the obstacles are created by "evil". Maybe it was destiny hoping Amara and Silas would fall in love for some "greater good" purpose and when Tessa intervened it changed the course of destiny for all the dopplegangers, but they will continue to be created until one falls in love over all the obstacles thrown at them and that will allow "nature" to be restored or something.... idk. I started outwith an idea,but I got a little lost as I was going.

Anyone want to make more sense of this idea?

[katvolley13]

No this makes much more sense than what they have been saying and what damons purpose might be

[Kiki]

Nov 9, 2013 6:32:23 GMT -5 teppy1 said:

Okay so they said that the dopplegangers are there to create balance - there has to be a version of them that can die. If the purpose of them is truly just so one can die why are there multiple version that can die? I mean Stefan died--- and all the other "stefans" died soooo. Why were there multiple doppelgangers? I have a feeling that it might have more to do with what Tessa was saying about destiny has been wanting the dopplegangers together FOREVER. Maybe it is good verses evil. Like the doppleganger are driven created by a "good" and the obstacles are created by "evil". Maybe it was destiny hoping Amara and Silas would fall in love for some "greater good" purpose and when Tessa intervened it changed the course of destiny for all the dopplegangers, but they will continue to be created until one falls in love over all the obstacles thrown at them and that will allow "nature" to be restored or something.... idk. I started outwith an idea,but I got a little lost as I was going.

Anyone want to make more sense of this idea?

good point. Since Katherine already existed why was Elena created? And why didn't Stefan fall in love with Katherine or stay in love with Katherine for those who believe he really loved her. Why did destiny fail on Stefan and Katherine? Maybe because there was another version of Silas/Stefan who was supposed to love Katherine? I wonder how the father of her daughter looks like.

And another thought: Since Amara wasn't dead all this time the other side was never between Silas and her. Tessa knew this so why did she create the other side? Obviously not to put it between Silas and Amara. There is no need to destroy the other side for Silas now that he knows that Amara is alive. So why did Tessa make Amara the anchor? Ok, Silas will not destroy the anchor now that he knows it's Amara but why would he still want to destroy it anyway? Though for everyone else who wants to destroy it Amara is not a very solid thing to choose as an anchor. She can be killed so easily. The comet in season 1 was a far better choice and it sealed only a stupid tomb and not the whole supernatural purgatory....

[napoli]

Nov 9, 2013 9:14:16 GMT -5 Kiki said:

Nov 9, 2013 6:32:23 GMT -5 teppy1 said:

Okay so they said that the dopplegangers are there to create balance - there has to be a version of them that can die. If the purpose of them is truly just so one can die why are there multiple version that can die? I mean Stefan died--- and all the other "stefans" died soooo. Why were there multiple doppelgangers? I have a feeling that it might have more to do with what Tessa was saying about destiny has been wanting the dopplegangers together FOREVER. Maybe it is good verses evil. Like the doppleganger are driven created by a "good" and the obstacles are created by "evil". Maybe it was destiny hoping Amara and Silas would fall in love for some "greater good" purpose and when Tessa intervened it changed the course of destiny for all the dopplegangers, but they will continue to be created until one falls in love over all the obstacles thrown at them and that will allow "nature" to be restored or something.... idk. I started outwith an idea,but I got a little lost as I was going.

Anyone want to make more sense of this idea?

good point. Since Katherine already existed why was Elena created? And why didn't Stefan fall in love with Katherine or stay in love with Katherine for those who believe he really loved her. Why did destiny fail on Stefan and Katherine? Maybe because there was another version of Silas/Stefan who was supposed to love Katherine? I wonder how the father of her daughter looks like.

And another thought: Since Amara wasn't dead all this time the other side was never between Silas and her. Tessa knew this so why did she create the other side? Obviously not to put it between Silas and Amara. There is no need to destroy the other side for Silas now that he knows that Amara is alive. So why did Tessa make Amara the anchor? Ok, Silas will not destroy the anchor now that he knows it's Amara but why would he still want to destroy it anyway? Though for everyone else who wants to destroy it Amara is not a very solid thing to choose as an anchor. She can be killed so easily. The comet in season 1 was a far better choice and it sealed only a stupid tomb and not the whole supernatural purgatory....

I don't think Amara can be killed.  Didn't Silas take the cure so he could die?  I  thought they said in 5x06 that the cure was the only way to kill them.

[teppy1]

wait I thought it went like this:

-Tessa gave Silas the cure but he didn't take it because he didn't want to end up in the supernatural purgatory that Tessa created.
-Silas thought Amara was dead so he wanted to wait to take the cure until he found out how to destroy "the otherside" sohe could just die and be at peace.
-Tessa created the other-side with an anchor and made that anchor Amara (the person Silas thought was dead) so that Silas could not destroy it.
- Silas took the cure not knowing Amara was alive still and then Amara drank the cure from Silas and now Amara is cured and Silas is in the same predicament that Katherine is.

I think this is right, but I am not sure anymore.

[shoe20]

Nov 9, 2013 14:12:47 GMT -5 teppy1 said:

wait I thought it went like this:

-Tessa gave Silas the cure but he didn't take it because he didn't want to end up in the supernatural purgatory that Tessa created.
-Silas thought Amara was dead so he wanted to wait to take the cure until he found out how to destroy "the otherside" sohe could just die and be at peace.
-Tessa created the other-side with an anchor and made that anchor Amara (the person Silas thought was dead) so that Silas could not destroy it.
- Silas took the cure not knowing Amara was alive still and then Amara drank the cure from Silas and now Amara is cured and Silas is in the same predicament that Katherine is.

I think this is right, but I am not sure anymore.

I think you're right too...... napoli's question still remains."why did Tessa create the "otherside"?  knowing Amara wasn't there.  She's simply that pissed....what better revenge than to have Silas take the cure and kill himself to be with his "one true love"....and spend eternity looking for Amara who isn't there. LOLOLOL  The b*** is really devious....brings a whole new meaning to "woman scorned" doesn't it?  Poster seem to write off Tessa as crazy....for me she's "crazy with a purpose. =)     

[shoe20]

Wasn't sure if this fits here, but it does end in theories.  This thread is my new default....after screwing up a couple times. lol
This was my response why Elena went to the cabin and why Silas and Tessa keep hammering Damon.

I answered your question...why Elena contacted Stefan....She found out Damon had killed him twice, and wanted to check if he was alright. All could have been avoided if Damon had told her the night before when he filled her in on the "Bonnie Plan"
Damon prioritizes was exactly my point....Damon decides what and when to tell Elena about things that happen. Sooner or later she'll get tired of always getting half the story.

As far a Silas and Tessa preying on Damon's insecurities....I agree, there is something else involved than Damon just being an easy target. Frankly I wish they both would just drop it. DE needs to survive or fall.... without supernatural interference. Enough was used putting them together! As an SE fan, (now S) I really don't want Stefan and Elena getting close the way she's changed. She's with exactly who she deserves. The thought of Stefan and her becoming BFF's while she's sleeping with his brother, would destroy Stefan's character beyond repair. I don't think Stefan will be mad at Damon for falling for his girl, but Elena is an entirely different matter. She's like a kid with a toy box of Salvator dolls, and one of the toys is missing. Not a great way to look at the heroine of the series.....I agree. lol

Here's some theories for ya about their involvement.
*Maybe Tessa had a hand in DE getting together and we'll find out S4 SB wasn't vamp-blood related at all. Now she's using reverse physiology on Damon to keep him engaged and working to prove the "universe" wrong.
*Silas knows Damon's mind...and the more he tries to drive wedges the harder Damon hold's on. Silas still has more plans for Stefan and the more segregated he is from those he loves the easier the plan will be to implement. Maybe Stefan will give his life for Elena or Damon....boy that would be a plot twist loaded with guilt for both to deal with.