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Post by shoe20 on Apr 22, 2014 8:00:46 GMT -5
Here's a theory that's running through my mind. How about this as a possibility? Elena, Stefan and Damon will all be made human in S6. The SE visions Markos planted were not an alternate universe or what "might have been",but a temptation of what "could be" He was preempting his offer of "humanity" for Elena's and Stefan's help in breaking the traveler curse. The ultimate teaser of happiness. OK, that's their path to human. Damon's path is sacrificing for another...without the expectation of reward. Really, "getting the girl" and being loved had zero effect on his character progression, it just made him sneakier. When Stefan and Elena do bring him back in S6, he will be human too. That's totally resetting the triangle in a big way. The final choice will come with mortality linked to it...adds a sense of permanence and other possibilities such as family in a now limited time frame. Give me a pen.....LOL I like your theory shoe20 and I agree with some of it. This is mine.
I also believe Markos showed Stefan and Elena what they could have in the future, though SE don't know that yet. Markos will be able to reset the universe and have SE meet again as humans and I think Damon will sacrifice himself to make this happen for them. I don't see Damon being human at all. He never wanted that.
I know I am giving Markos a lot of pull but this is only a theory.
Hey girl, Elena and Stefan have to be human for their blood to break the curse, there's the motive for Markos to give them the visions? Teasing a possible future.....not a missed past. I think he will couple this with the promise it will destroy the DG curse. Tempting offer.........Unfortunately, Markos one little fact.....he need all their blood. This will come out Thur I think, and it will shock both Elena and stefan. This is what their keeping from Damon in the following ep in the cabin. I like your idea about Damon sacrificing for both of them...we both knew he was going to give his life for something this season, and that would be a "two'fer" and fits the web we're weaving. I'm not sure about the universe reset, yet....but it does make sense, and I do think he is that powerful. His visions already had their desired effect, which is why he didn't care about the effort to stop them.........Fun, bouncing stuff off each other. =) I'm going to be without web for two weeks starting Sat ... don't mistake my absence for lack of interest. LOL
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Post by Kiki on Apr 24, 2014 13:25:40 GMT -5
ok, latest spoilers said 3 main characters are going to die one of them permanently. Paul said something will happen to two characters that will change everything and he is looking forward to film in a whole new enviroment next season. Plus Ian posted the following on instagram last night
Doesn't this sound like a goodbye speech???
So here are my thoughts:
1 dead character will be gone for good. No idea who it will be. I hope not Matt
2 dead characters will not be dead dead and like Paul said something will happen to 2 characters that will change everything. My guess is they will go back to the books storyline. Damon will sacrifice himself for Stefan or Elena and die. He will move to the other side. Bonnie as the anchor will join him there. The other side will be the new enviroment Paul was talking about. Of course Damon will not be dead dead but they might try to make it a cliffhanger and therefore Ian posted this kind of goodbye speech to make fans nervous.
By sacrificing himself Damon redeemed himself and Bonnie might start to like him. Start of Bamon???
And Caroline Dries said season 6 will be about picking up the pieces and bringing people back together. I just hope she is talking about Stelena. Please please pleeeeeeaaaaaaase.... pretty please???
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Post by stelena4ever on Apr 24, 2014 20:42:17 GMT -5
ok, latest spoilers said 3 main characters are going to die one of them permanently. Paul said something will happen to two characters that will change everything and he is looking forward to film in a whole new enviroment next season. Plus Ian posted the following on instagram last night Doesn't this sound like a goodbye speech??? So here are my thoughts: 1 dead character will be gone for good. No idea who it will be. I hope not Matt 2 dead characters will not be dead dead and like Paul said something will happen to 2 characters that will change everything. My guess is they will go back to the books storyline. Damon will sacrifice himself for Stefan or Elena and die. He will move to the other side. Bonnie as the anchor will join him there. The other side will be the new enviroment Paul was talking about. Of course Damon will not be dead dead but they might try to make it a cliffhanger and therefore Ian posted this kind of goodbye speech to make fans nervous. By sacrificing himself Damon redeemed himself and Bonnie might start to like him. Start of Bamon??? And Caroline Dries said season 6 will be about picking up the pieces and bringing people back together. I just hope she is talking about Stelena. Please please pleeeeeeaaaaaaase.... pretty please??? I think Bonnie will be the one to be gone for good and as for 2 characters that will change everything, it will obviously be the doppelgangers, Stefan and Elena. As for Damon, I think he will sacrifice himself for SE but not be dead. He just might be on the other side.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 4:37:27 GMT -5
Something is also going to happen to Ty. But I don't think he will die. Holy sh** I don't want to say goodbye to any of the characters that were there from the beginning. My bet is that Enzo is going to try to abduct Stef into the Other Side mess and Damon might sacrifice himself. My head is burning. I still don't get the stupid traveller's agenda. What does undoing vampirism have to do with them settling down, witches magic goes far beyond creating vampires...did I miss something??? and why is THE OTHER SIDE disintegrating??? Oh man I will just stop pondering, listen to my podcasts and enjoy the rest of the season, bec I think the last 4 episodes were quite good. Cheers
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Post by Kiki on Apr 26, 2014 5:28:17 GMT -5
So far I understood the travellers cannot settle down because of the spell the witches put on them. If they succeed in destroying magic the spell will be gone but as a sideeffect The other side will fall apart. Since they already got some of Elena and Stefan's blood and their plan is already starting to work the other side already started to fall apart. Now the experiment with Sloan. Marcos turned her into a vampire, cured her with the doppelgängerblood and killed her as a human and was proud to have found a way to kill vampires. HELLO? If he knows so much about vampires did he ever thought about the stake through the heart method? Way easier, isn't it? Ok but the doppelgängerblood can destroy magic. Maybe it can also turn witches into normal humans? Why did Enzo kill himself? Did he already know he'd be comming back as a ghost? And what I still don't get is Silas and Tessa were both travellers and witches. When did the travellers and witches become two kinds and why? And why did the witches put this spell on the travellers? And if the travellers used to be witches and they are doing magic, too will they lose their magic, too???
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Post by napoli on Apr 26, 2014 12:30:25 GMT -5
So far I understood the travellers cannot settle down because of the spell the witches put on them. If they succeed in destroying magic the spell will be gone but as a sideeffect The other side will fall apart. Since they already got some of Elena and Stefan's blood and their plan is already starting to work the other side already started to fall apart. Now the experiment with Sloan. Marcos turned her into a vampire, cured her with the doppelgängerblood and killed her as a human and was proud to have found a way to kill vampires. HELLO? If he knows so much about vampires did he ever thought about the stake through the heart method? Way easier, isn't it? Ok but the doppelgängerblood can destroy magic. Maybe it can also turn witches into normal humans? Why did Enzo kill himself? Did he already know he'd be comming back as a ghost? And what I still don't get is Silas and Tessa were both travellers and witches. When did the travellers and witches become two kinds and why? And why did the witches put this spell on the travellers? And if the travellers used to be witches and they are doing magic, too will they lose their magic, too??? I don't think Markos is trying to kill vampires or destroy the other side intentionally. Its merely a consequence of getting rid of magic. This quote is from one of the articles moshe12 posted in the spoiler section www.tvfanatic.com/2014/04/the-vampire-diaries-spoilers-ghost-villains-traveler-threats-and/#ixzz2zuWRKDHf That Doppelganger Blood: As for laying out the idea of doppelganger blood being the remedy for ending magic, Dries explained how it works:
“It literally undoes magic, so what we saw with Sloan when she was a vampire, it strips away her vampirism and leaves her in the state she was in before she was a vampire and that state was she’s dead….so if you were to do that to Damon, the same thing would happen and it’s like ‘oh, geez, if they can do this globally, then will it get rid of all vampires? That’s the threat.”
She clarified that The Travelers care less about getting rid of vamps than just getting rid of the magic on their people. But, as Markos said in the episode, they’re going to need a lot more blood.
The danger seems to be the travelers getting rid of magic all together and not by making each vamp drink blood. Maybe the travelers drinking enough blood or even just draining the doppels of all their blood given SE are the last 2 will be enough to undo all magic. Then this would be the risk for all vamps and those on the other side and as you said even the witches would lose their magic too. Even the travelers that are passengers would be dead too because that magic would no longer exist. I want to know why the witches cursed the travelers too. The witches haven't been presented as a vengeful group so there must've been a good reason to stop the other witch faction from setting down roots. Now lets just hope the writers come through with a good explanation.
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Post by Kiki on Apr 26, 2014 12:43:48 GMT -5
I just had an idea: Tessa was a traveler and her spell created the other side and makes sure Silas and Amara can never be together. Since the witches always have the plan to keep nature's balance they must have been not happy about Tessa's spell and therefore maybe they punished her? Tessa always wanted to reunite with Silas and be with him. They were both travellers so the witches cast the spell on the travellers so they could never settle down together to keep Tessa apart from Silas to punish her. And only the blood of both doppelgängers can undo this spell. To get the blood from both they have to be together... Stefan & Elena or maybe it would have worked with Silas and Amara, too.
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Post by napoli on Apr 26, 2014 14:01:33 GMT -5
I just had an idea: Tessa was a traveler and her spell created the other side and makes sure Silas and Amara can never be together. Since the witches always have the plan to keep nature's balance they must have been not happy about Tessa's spell and therefore maybe they punished her? Tessa always wanted to reunite with Silas and be with him. They were both travellers so the witches cast the spell on the travellers so they could never settle down together to keep Tessa apart from Silas to punish her. And only the blood of both doppelgängers can undo this spell. To get the blood from both they have to be together... Stefan & Elena or maybe it would have worked with Silas and Amara, too. That's what I don't get either. It was stated early this season that the travelers didn't want the other side. Isn't that why they were carting Amara around with them and searching for Silas so with the cure they would make Amara human and kill her and thus get rid of the other side. Sometimes I think we just shouldn't analyse the show because sadly I'm not sure if they really worry about the mythology making sense anymore.
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Post by shoe20 on Apr 26, 2014 20:02:25 GMT -5
This may be silly, but I want to know what happens to the Travelers is they stay in one place too long? Do they bleed out the eyes and ears? Important parts fall off? They owe us an explanation. Kiki, I think your on to something with your theory. Go Girl.
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Post by Kiki on Apr 27, 2014 4:26:11 GMT -5
did anyone wonder why they are filming the first 3 episodes of The Originals now already? Maybe they need the actors for the first episodes of TVD season 6 for a major crossover?? All this traveller stuff affects a lot of spells. Like the one that made Klaus hybrid for example. Maybe Klaus and Elijah will come to help out in Mystic Falls?
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Post by teppy1 on Apr 27, 2014 11:23:47 GMT -5
Kiki I hope you're right. With The Originals being a spin off and TVD still being on the story lines have to connect in some way. If they rid magic in mystic falls or the other side falls apart, but pretend like that didn't happen in New Orleans it would just be strange for those that watch both.
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Post by Kiki on Apr 27, 2014 12:27:36 GMT -5
Kiki I hope you're right. With The Originals being a spin off and TVD still being on the story lines have to connect in some way. If they rid magic in mystic falls or the other side falls apart, but pretend like that didn't happen in New Orleans it would just be strange for those that watch both. Maybe the storyline is already connected. Remember the dead witches that are alive again in New Orleans? They shook up the other side, too. And on the production part of it all The Originals seems to have it's own fanbase already. People who don't watch TVD. So why not connect both shows more and get people who only watch one watch both?
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Post by Ruby on Apr 27, 2014 13:59:31 GMT -5
Kiki I hope you're right. With The Originals being a spin off and TVD still being on the story lines have to connect in some way. If they rid magic in mystic falls or the other side falls apart, but pretend like that didn't happen in New Orleans it would just be strange for those that watch both. Maybe the storyline is already connected. Remember the dead witches that are alive again in New Orleans? They shook up the other side, too. And on the production part of it all The Originals seems to have it's own fanbase already. People who don't watch TVD. So why not connect both shows more and get people who only watch one watch both? Well for this week's episode of the originals klaus mentions that the other side is crumbling hence his father finding him in his dreams and making his way to destroy klaus' baby.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 16:47:24 GMT -5
Maybe the storyline is already connected. Remember the dead witches that are alive again in New Orleans? They shook up the other side, too. And on the production part of it all The Originals seems to have it's own fanbase already. People who don't watch TVD. So why not connect both shows more and get people who only watch one watch both? Well for this week's episode of the originals klaus mentions that the other side is crumbling hence his father finding him in his dreams and making his way to destroy klaus' baby. Mikael: "The spirit world is crumbling" and "welcome to my hell"
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Post by stelena4ever on Apr 27, 2014 19:43:38 GMT -5
did anyone wonder why they are filming the first 3 episodes of The Originals now already? Maybe they need the actors for the first episodes of TVD season 6 for a major crossover?? All this traveller stuff affects a lot of spells. Like the one that made Klaus hybrid for example. Maybe Klaus and Elijah will come to help out in Mystic Falls? It makes a lot of sense for Elijah and Klaus to help get rid of the travellers and for them to crossover to TVD. I can't wait.
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