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Post by Kiki on Jan 26, 2014 3:09:41 GMT -5
Remember when Katherine told Nadia that she didn't want to travel into another body. Nadia gave Matt the traveller knife do keep it in case Katherine would change her mind. Well.. now Katherine travelled into Elena's body without using the knife?? wasnt the knife used to remove the person out of the body. Maybe this is why Nadia kind of convinces Matt to throw a party so she can find the knife? but whats the use in giving it to matt then?
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Post by Ruby on Jan 30, 2014 9:01:08 GMT -5
New Theory Time!!!!!! So we all know that Katherine will be playing as Elena and will be messing with both boys again. I have a feeling that Stefan will be the one to kill Katherine. And when I mean kill katherine I mean stab Elena with that knife which btw I wonder if it works the same towards a vampire and a human...anyways.... I feel that Stefan has finally moved on or atleast is trying to move on from Delena. Letting them be and being the best brother he can be. But with Katherine messing with Stefan as Elena this will bring up his feelings for Elena but he will not take it there even though he loves her dearly. He will then release Elena killing Katherine for good and also again letting Elena go back to Damon. Heartbreaking/.? yes it is.
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Post by stelena4ever on Jan 30, 2014 10:06:00 GMT -5
New Theory Time!!!!!! So we all know that Katherine will be playing as Elena and will be messing with both boys again. I have a feeling that Stefan will be the one to kill Katherine. And when I mean kill katherine I mean stab Elena with that knife which btw I wonder if it works the same towards a vampire and a human...anyways.... I feel that Stefan has finally moved on or atleast is trying to move on from Delena. Letting them be and being the best brother he can be. But with Katherine messing with Stefan as Elena this will bring up his feelings for Elena but he will not take it there even though he loves her dearly. He will then release Elena killing Katherine for good and also again letting Elena go back to Damon. Heartbreaking/.? yes it is. I agree with you Ruby, Stefan will be the one to save Elena again and Elena probably will go back to Damon but I hope this time she will really look at Damon and realize she has lost a lot of herself being with him. Elena needs to take a break from both Salvatore brothers and find herself again.
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Post by katvolley13 on Jan 30, 2014 19:17:04 GMT -5
where is the dislike button when you need one. WTH Katherine will always survive. but interesting theory I just hope it does not happen.
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Post by napoli on Jan 31, 2014 20:05:22 GMT -5
ywhiterain blogged My tvd prediction Stefan’s doppelgänger status will help bring Elena back to life and that’s the plotline that we’ve been teased about I would so overjoyed if this theory proves to be true!
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Post by Kiki on Mar 9, 2014 1:57:52 GMT -5
could this be a hint on how the virus works? maybe it stops someone from hiding his real self? damon cannot pretend to be a better man anymore? and how will it work on elena? will it open her eyes? will it bring the real elena back?
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Post by Kiki on Mar 9, 2014 2:03:23 GMT -5
wasnt the knife used to remove the person out of the body. Maybe this is why Nadia kind of convinces Matt to throw a party so she can find the knife? but whats the use in giving it to matt then? another lose end in the storyline. we never got to know why she gave the knife to matt. what was the use? she could havejust kept it. would have been way easier for her this is why i am not so addicted to tvd anymore. it's just not worth guessing about it anymore. you just watch without thinking
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Post by napoli on Mar 9, 2014 19:44:35 GMT -5
but whats the use in giving it to matt then? another lose end in the storyline. we never got to know why she gave the knife to matt. what was the use? she could havejust kept it. would have been way easier for her this is why i am not so addicted to tvd anymore. it's just not worth guessing about it anymore. you just watch without thinking They also never resolved where Nadia was as a child when Kat went back to Bulgaria to look for her.
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Post by Kiki on Mar 12, 2014 14:27:28 GMT -5
ok now that Rebekah left New Orleans for good.... Well, she left Matt and Mystic Falls because Elijah convinced her to help Klaus. Now she is free. Why not come back to Mystic Falls? Nadia is gone and Matt is single. Or maybe she can rekindle with Stefan?
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Post by Kiki on Mar 22, 2014 4:50:15 GMT -5
what really drives me crazy is that after everything that happened in the last 5 seasons our characters are still too stupid to ask more questions before they run into something. They only solve the immediate problem without thinking about the maybe much worse consequences. Katherine and Klaus were the only ones so far to check the situation before getting into something. So this is just happening AGAIN. To save Elena and Damon (AGAIN) Stefan and Caroline agreed to work with the travelers. 1. They don't know what consequences the electric brain witchy thing will have for Stefan this time. Is is life worth less than Elena and Damons? 2. The mix of Stefan and Elena's blood will only become powerful if Stefan is the only living Silas-Doppelgänger remaining. So they agree to kill the other one so the travelers can have their new doppelgängerpowerblood? HELLOOOOOO? Did anyone think about asking more questions? It's all about getting the antidote for Elena and Damon no matter what? What will this new powerblood do? Maybe it will kill all vampires immediately and then what? And why are the doppelgängers drawn to each other? Just to share blood? Is producing the powerblood the whole purpose of doppelgängers or is the powerblood just a byproduct of the whole doppelgängercurse? The whole thing started as a romantic idea of love and jealousy I'd be disappointed if it ends in a bloodmixing thing. So far we know the travelers hated Silas, but Silas used to be their leader before Tessa messed with him. They kept Amara in a box and didn't want Silas and Amara united. They wanted to kill Katherine and we now know that was because she wasn't the last remaining doppelgänger. Yet they helped Katherine to stay alive and take over Elena's body. So it's the body that's importand not the person in it? They told Stefan that they will give him the antidote because Elena is importand to them. Why didn't they try to get Elena at all? So far they were only interested in Stefan. (And why did Stefan agree to get his brain freyed again knowing they wouldn't let Elena die anyway because she is importand. Oh yes I forgot of course he did it to save his brother... the one who destroyed his life and gave him an eternity of misery.) So they have Elena's blood and she is already the last remaining doppelgänger. Why is she still importand for the travelers? They seem to want more than just the blood or they want a blood source forever? So they will not let Stefan go even if Caroline can kill his doppelgänger because they want more. And why are they not worried that Elena might hit the road with Damon? Why are they so sure she'll stay around? What else do we know about the travelers? They can travel into someones body. Is that the reason why they are called travelers? Or are they traveling all the time? If so why? Why was Katherine's father a traveler and didn't want to have anything to do with them? Are they evil or are they fighting evil? Does anyone have more ideas for this? I am just confused. There are so many points that I just cannot connect.
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Post by napoli on Mar 22, 2014 11:50:33 GMT -5
I get what you're mean Kiki about the gang just trusting the travelers. At this point Damon and Elena had the antidote so what is the purpose of killing the (innocent) doppelganger? I was shocked that Stefan went along with this plan so quickly. As you've said they don't know what sort of power the blood will have and what the travelers will do with it and it could in fact be a move against the vampires. I'm hoping that either Caroline or Stefan or both will have a change of heart and refuse to kill the doppelganger and question the motives of the travelers. I also have a feeling that whatever they do the doppel will end dying anyways but I just don't want it at their hands. Last season they said that Silas wanted to destroy the other side which meant that all the supernatural beings would be back and freely be among humans. This season the story line was changed so that dropping the veil meant that instead of roaming the Earth all the supernatural beings would find peace as Aunt Jenna did or as we've seen with Katherine they would go to a dark place. I don't think the travelers are in fact after the vampires because they come from The Originals and not from Silas and Tessa's immortality spell. The goal of the travelers seems to be to destroy the other side which was created by Tessa to keep Amara and Silas apart but then indirectly trapped all supernatural beings (including travelers) upon death on the other side instead of finding peace. The travelers had Amara the whole time and were searching for Silas so they could get the cure, give it to Amara and then kill her which would destroy the other side. I have a feeling that Bonnie will end up either really dead (not sure how much more you can kill a ghost) or at least her role as anchor will be taken away because the romantic and optimist in me believes that Silas and Amara will end up together in death instead of Silas stuck with Tessa and Amara on her own. The blood from the last remaining doppelgangers may be needed to help remove the anchor and/or destroy the other side permanently and also stop the doppelganger phenomenon from continuing. It's possible this may mean they want Stefan and Elena dead because as the last doppels their blood is too powerful. I'm not sure how Liv and Luke enter the picture but they may be connected somehow to the travelers because they know Elena and her friends are in danger. In the end I think that Stefan and Elena will be the last 2 doppelgangers and that the concept of the universe wanting them together will be removed so that when Stefan and Elena get back together there is no question that they have complete free will to be together. This would coincide nicely with wrapping up the traveler story line this season with DE finally breaking up and then next season there can be a rebuild of SE without any lingering supernatural power interfering. I also agree with what several of you all predict about Damon that somehow he is caught up in this whole universe plan but as an obstacle of the doppels. That last fight between DE was just too weird with Damon and Elena both saying that each has control over the other and has been shown in s5 that Elena seems to do everything Damon wants. Damon's obsession with Katherine and now Elena is just too much that it would make perfect sense if he was being forced to be intrusive with SE. This would help with Damon's redemption story line.
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Post by Kiki on Mar 22, 2014 13:22:44 GMT -5
That last fight between DE was just too weird with Damon and Elena both saying that each has control over the other and has been shown in s5 that Elena seems to do everything Damon wants. Damon's obsession with Katherine and now Elena is just too much that it would make perfect sense if he was being forced to be intrusive with SE. This would help with Damon's redemption story line. Earlier this season Stefan said to Elena "You tend to do everything Damon says" and that was after the sirebond. Was this a hint? And that's how he knew that Elena wasn't Elena when she kissed him in the motel because kissing him is not what Damon would want so Stefan knew Elena wouldn't do it.
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Post by napoli on Mar 22, 2014 14:27:54 GMT -5
Earlier this season Stefan said to Elena "You tend to do everything Damon says" and that was after the sirebond. Was this a hint? And that's how he knew that Elena wasn't Elena when she kissed him in the motel because kissing him is not what Damon would want so Stefan knew Elena wouldn't do it. I think at the time of the Katlena/Stefan kiss that Stefan pulled away out of respect for his brother and Elena as individuals. But for sure that helped him figure it out later when he was with Caroline that it wasn't really Elena. There has to be something going on with Elena when she is around Damon or Stefan. When Damon fed Katherine to Silas, basically killing Katherine, Elena stayed silent and even lamented that Katherine actually survived. When Katherine was on her deathbed and Damon and the gang were roasting Katherine over shots Elena quickly joined in. Yet later when she saw Stefan being so compassionate toward Katherine then Elena actually had a compassionate moment with her as well and forgave her. Is is just that Elena is so easily influenced by anyone or is there something specific with Damon and Stefan because of the doppel effect?
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Post by Kiki on Mar 22, 2014 14:42:23 GMT -5
Earlier this season Stefan said to Elena "You tend to do everything Damon says" and that was after the sirebond. Was this a hint? And that's how he knew that Elena wasn't Elena when she kissed him in the motel because kissing him is not what Damon would want so Stefan knew Elena wouldn't do it. I think at the time of the Katlena/Stefan kiss that Stefan pulled away out of respect for his brother and Elena as individuals. But for sure that helped him figure it out later when he was with Caroline that it wasn't really Elena. There has to be something going on with Elena when she is around Damon or Stefan. When Damon fed Katherine to Silas, basically killing Katherine, Elena stayed silent and even lamented that Katherine actually survived. When Katherine was on her deathbed and Damon and the gang were roasting Katherine over shots Elena quickly joined in. Yet later when she saw Stefan being so compassionate toward Katherine then Elena actually had a compassionate moment with her as well and forgave her. Is is just that Elena is so easily influenced by anyone or is there something specific with Damon and Stefan because of the doppel effect? I would have loved to see Elena getting the news about Aaron from someone else without Damon close by. I think she reacts different to such things when she is apart from Damon. It looks like she immediately forgets everything she was angry about when he is close. Like brainwash or something.
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Post by shoe20 on Mar 28, 2014 2:00:18 GMT -5
Marcos was Silas's brother and in love with Amera.... He's also Damon' s father. How's that?
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