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Post by Ruby on Oct 9, 2014 18:54:35 GMT -5
THIS IS A DEBATES AREA THREAD PLEASE READ BELOW
lets come together to share our thoughts about tonight's episode! =)
All TVD Fans Welcomed including Exclusive Ship fans lol
Lets discuss:
What did you Like?
What you did not like?
What was your favorite scene/quote?
What scene was the most shocking to you or caught you off guard?
AND HOW DID YOU LIKE THIS SEASON premiere AND WHAT YOU EXPECT FOR this SEASON =)
ONLY RULES*
When replying to someone's response please
BE POLITE AND AVOID BEING RUDE TO SOMEONE'S OPINION. =)
You can nicely state why you might disagree without saying
"well you're wrong" or "I dont like your opinion"
Lets stick to the episode topic xoxo
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Post by katvolley13 on Oct 9, 2014 19:48:36 GMT -5
My computer brokedown but I can live with this decision by the writers
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Post by katvolley13 on Oct 9, 2014 19:50:16 GMT -5
This is on ok time
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Post by Ruby on Oct 9, 2014 20:33:32 GMT -5
Ahhhh where should I begin with this post…. Lets start with
ELENA and Alaric
Alaric taking special precaution with his compelling skills for Elena showed that he cared about what he was doing and how he wanted to do it right. Reliving key moments with Damon, Elena herself was trying to figure out when she fell for him. But what the writers did not realize they were about to answer questions that for six years we as the viewer and fans have been speculating and debating about with other shippers. Like I said in my chatroom, I felt like we were just sitting there ready for someone to rip off the band-aid from a cut that has yet to even heal.
Through these moments we realized Elena found Damon exciting and dangerous when she first met him. She realized he was first sexy when he danced with her and how bad she wanted to kiss him when they spent the night at the motel.
Alaric had to call Caroline for some key info which in Caroline form (She is never afraid to say what people don't want to admit to) she revealed to Alaric just what Elena herself had yet to be honest about. She fell for Damon while she was still with Stefan (Or kind of). Which was the big moment? Ding Ding Ding 3x01 on her 18th Birthday when he gave her back her necklace because it showed her how selfless he was by giving her something that represented the hope between her and stefan even though it would be crushing him inside.
And that just makes me feel even more sad because one of my favorite Stefan and Elena moments was when he called her that same night and the scene played to "A Drop in the Ocean"
Whatever!!!! lol anyways she then allows rick to erase that from her memory and now Damon is left as Stefan's brother, the monster who died… Which I kind of don't like because Damon did a lot of good with the group even after that but I get it the whole Domino effect crap rick told us in the beginning of the episode.
Bonnie and Damon
Ahhhh Bamon. I love their bickering with each other and how they keep reminding each other they are in hell with each other. They are for some reason reliving the same day in history over and over again.
She is trying to complete a crossword and carrying around her teddybear lol…
They still don't know why they are there but Im thinking there is something in Mystic Falls on this day in history that they can use to get wherever they need to go. And I think the first thing is the infamous Elena necklace.
It's going to represent the hope they need to get back home.
and Bonnie is realizing they might not be the only ones stuck there in history.
Caroline and Enzo • Caroline and Stefan • Stefan and Enzo
I like this dynamic duo. I enjoy a lot of people with Caroline. Enzo is one of my favs. He finds a lead on a coven named the gemini coven but instead he makes caroline drive him to Stefan. Where he has been hiding out without his buddies. Caroline is almost close to letting him have it in between their awkward dinner party and then Enzo wants to go for the dramatics and stabs stefan.
Caroline has a heart to heart or attempts to with Stefan but Stefan is not having it. He couldn't find anything to bring back bonnie and damon so he came to terms with their deaths so he can be able to move on but this also meant moving on from his old life in mystic falls and the gang.
Caroline realizes they not as close as she thought and while she vented her months away to his voicemail, Stefan was not even listening to her messages. Which btw for someone who said he had to move on…he had picked up for Elena and also gave her the ok about the compulsion?
Whatever Stefan…no judo points for that. you should've at least heard carolines messages.
and now you got a caroline kick in the nuts and she walked out on you…
To only be found by Enzo crying in her car. Which I can say was my favorite scene. The way Enzo grabbed her face like hold up pretty girl who is making you so sad? oh that dick in that house? ok let me go handle him lol…
I thought he was going to take stefan and make him talk to caroline to fix it but I was not expecting this guy to go and kill Ivy who we have known all for like 2 seconds…thanks a lot tvd writers.
Enzo doesn't like that stefan gave up and calls him a bad brother…
I don't agree with Enzo at all but i know some fans will bc thats the beauty of how these shipper wars work lol
Stefan has been a good brother but when is it that u decide you have had enough? I don't blame stefan from wanting to come to terms and moving on. I just wish he didn't have to block out the people who care about him.
So Enzo leaves Stefan girlfriend less, table - less, angry and with a broken neck lol
Mystic Fall News
Jeremy: He has no purpose in life that he feels…Matt is trying to get him there but Jeremy does not care. Instead he is still holding a grudge on Bonnie by paying her cellphone bill with what money btw? lol and leaving her daily voicemails how he is still upset she told him she was going to die over the phone…talk about a bad break up lol
no but I feel bad for Jeremy he has a right to be upset.
Matt is trying to do good in mystic falls and finds out our newbie resident stoled a car and drove to mystic falls to find her dad? Why do i feel she might be related to Bonnie somehow?
Then we find out Tripp is a fell hahahahaha related to our infamous Logan Fell and Mss Meredith.
And he is well informed about the mystic falls vampire problem. Looks like they have another psycho on their hands and wasn't buying that animal attack
Overall I think this episode was well done. I enjoyed it and looked forward to see where we are going this season.
Once again…If Elena erased the moment she realizes she loved Damon does this mean she never fell out of love with Stefan?
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Post by katvolley13 on Oct 9, 2014 21:46:52 GMT -5
I am reading on twitter and on tumbler alot of Se's who are livid which made me think like wait why am I not but I honestly expected a lot worse. De was saying 2 22 and even the first meeting etc the moment in the hotel. So I am kind of glad they explored those moments just to explain it was lust or excitement or wanting to kiss him not love. Perhaps this is what it is because season three can be seen as a transition season anyway o mean stefen was out of his mind due to damon but I digress so stelena could not be together so I can look at it this way season 1 and 2 stelena season three transition 4 and 5 delena season 6 transition hopefully season seven who knows maybe elena will be with caroline.
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Post by Ruby on Oct 9, 2014 22:10:57 GMT -5
I am reading on twitter and on tumbler alot of Se's who are livid which made me think like wait why am I not but I honestly expected a lot worse. De was saying 2 22 and even the first meeting etc the moment in the hotel. So I am kind of glad they explored those moments just to explain it was lust or excitement or wanting to kiss him not love. Perhaps this is what it is because season three can be seen as a transition season anyway o mean stefen was out of his mind due to damon but I digress so stelena could not be together so I can look at it this way season 1 and 2 stelena season three transition 4 and 5 delena season 6 transition hopefully season seven who knows maybe elena will be with caroline. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I527 using pro boards I'm sorry but I'm trying to stay away from the shipper commentary especially on tumblr but one thing is a fact…Elena fell for Damon during a time where Stefan gave up everything to save his brother… it will always be a messed up situation and i don't thnk Stefan is a dick for giving up. He has been the longest who has dealt with Damon…since day 1 of them being vampires…he is allowed to want to give up so he can finally move on…why judge him for it…(going off of things I'm seeing on the internet) |
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Post by don on Oct 9, 2014 22:48:50 GMT -5
Im thinking that this new girl sarah is related to Bonnie, first off, and may be able to communicate with Bonnie through the other side... Second, i think that Bonnie and Damon are stuck on this day because the solar eclipse. Maybe its this day that Bonnie's grams sent her to because the solar eclipse would harvest the right amount of power to complete a spell to bring her back to life. Like a full moon to complete some spells... maybe the solar eclipse harvests energy as well. I really wanna know who is in the house!! I honestly am not very sure right now.
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Post by shoe20 on Oct 9, 2014 23:01:18 GMT -5
Not real happy about the direction they decided to go, but totally expected it..... Choosing 301 kinda makes Elena looks bad by never giving up on Stefan and choosing him in 322 only to rip his heart out.... if her feelings changed then ...quit looking girl... Nice review Ruby, wish I had sound for chat, but it was still fun. lol If your right about Elena feelings being erased for Damon, leaving her still in love with Stefan..... this is just setting Stefan up for another heart rip....he'll come back to town and Elena will throw her self at him denying any feelings for Damon...Stefan will have hope once more and open his heart to her.... Damon will return and ..... bingo...Crushed again for Stefan.....Not sure that's something I need to watch. lol  (Stefan doesn't know about the Damon mind erase, does he!) Welcome back Enz-hole!!! Ivy may be the shortest Character yet. lol
They've got one shot at keeping me interested....... Katherine...finished the crossword!  ))
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Post by crimmyj on Oct 9, 2014 23:33:42 GMT -5
Not real happy about the direction they decided to go, but totally expected it..... Choosing 301 kinda makes Elena looks bad by never giving up on Stefan and choosing him in 322 only to rip his heart out.... if her feelings changed then ...quit looking girl... Nice review Ruby, wish I had sound for chat, but it was still fun. lol If your right about Elena feelings being erased for Damon, leaving her still in love with Stefan..... this is just setting Stefan up for another heart rip....he'll come back to town and Elena will throw her self at him denying any feelings for Damon...Stefan will have hope once more and open his heart to her.... Damon will return and ..... bingo...Crushed again for Stefan.....Not sure that's something I need to watch. lol (Stefan doesn't know about the Damon mind erase, does he!) Welcome back Enz-hole!!! Ivy may be the shortest Character yet. lol
They've got one shot at keeping me interested....... Katherine...finished the crossword! ))
I would love that, but I think you will be disappointed, my friend. I am absolutely not a fan of compelling Elena. I wasn't last week, and this episode didn't convince me I was wrong about that. Also it is more lets continue to eff with Stefan and make with the life of misery wish. and the writers will put him through the ringer with damon and elena yet again and make caroline his consolation prize. Just mentioning Katherine's name made me realize how much I missed her sassy self. |
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Post by Kiki on Oct 10, 2014 6:46:15 GMT -5
Im thinking that this new girl sarah is related to Bonnie, first off, and may be able to communicate with Bonnie through the other side... Second, i think that Bonnie and Damon are stuck on this day because the solar eclipse. Maybe its this day that Bonnie's grams sent her to because the solar eclipse would harvest the right amount of power to complete a spell to bring her back to life. Like a full moon to complete some spells... maybe the solar eclipse harvests energy as well. I really wanna know who is in the house!! I honestly am not very sure right now. I think it could be Lexi. She was drawn into the white light in the finale just like Bonnie and Damon. Maybe she went to the same place |
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Post by Kiki on Oct 10, 2014 6:55:37 GMT -5
A lot of Stelena fans were mad about the moment Elena fell in love with Damon. But like she said she loved them both. The moment she fell for Damon wasn't the moment her love for Stefan stopped. She just loved them both.
I am glad she finally took off her Damon glases and can see reality again. This guy killed her brother!!
And even if Alaric will give her back her memory at some point she does not necessarily lose her view on reality again. I hope without her memory of her addiction to Damon she will become her old self again and even if Damon comes back and Alaric decompells her she will still be her old self and not get into this addiction again.
Wasn't it significant that in the first scene when she remembered Damon she remembered a moment when they jumped on each other?
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Post by katvolley13 on Oct 10, 2014 8:34:56 GMT -5
I thought katherine too with the crossword and the show is really lacking without her so hopefully. I was also thinking sara was bonnies relative because they look alike jeremy is sleeping with her and she has no family so interesting.
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Post by crimmyj on Oct 10, 2014 15:39:23 GMT -5
A lot of Stelena fans were mad about the moment Elena fell in love with Damon. But like she said she loved them both. The moment she fell for Damon wasn't the moment her love for Stefan stopped. She just loved them both. I am glad she finally took off her Damon glases and can see reality again. This guy killed her brother!! And even if Alaric will give her back her memory at some point she does not necessarily lose her view on reality again. I hope without her memory of her addiction to Damon she will become her old self again and even if Damon comes back and Alaric decompells her she will still be her old self and not get into this addiction again. Wasn't it significant that in the first scene when she remembered Damon she remembered a moment when they jumped on each other? But they are not painting that as a reality. Like it or not this show's reality is that Damon is the flawed hero and not a monster. Did you see how sad Alaric was that that was how Elena saw Damon as now. Because he isn't a monster so the memory is false because Ric altered it as if things that happened, never happened. So it is anything but reality. He didn't just wipe clean her memories, he changed an event that happened into something that didn't happen. ie, him never giving her back the necklace. and it is only going to set up him giving her the necklace when he returns and having them fall in love all over again. |
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Post by katvolley13 on Oct 10, 2014 16:21:39 GMT -5
Well if that is true then I can be done but I think that maybe they are trying to get us back but keep de as I am notic8ng some of us are happy and they are happy they rarely accomplish that
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Post by demetra on Oct 10, 2014 16:55:42 GMT -5
A lot of Stelena fans were mad about the moment Elena fell in love with Damon. But like she said she loved them both. The moment she fell for Damon wasn't the moment her love for Stefan stopped. She just loved them both. I am glad she finally took off her Damon glases and can see reality again. This guy killed her brother!! And even if Alaric will give her back her memory at some point she does not necessarily lose her view on reality again. I hope without her memory of her addiction to Damon she will become her old self again and even if Damon comes back and Alaric decompells her she will still be her old self and not get into this addiction again. Wasn't it significant that in the first scene when she remembered Damon she remembered a moment when they jumped on each other? But they are not painting that as a reality. Like it or not this show's reality is that Damon is the flawed hero and not a monster. Did you see how sad Alaric was that that was how Elena saw Damon as now. Because he isn't a monster so the memory is false because Ric altered it as if things that happened, never happened. So it is anything but reality. He didn't just wipe clean her memories, he changed an event that happened into something that didn't happen. ie, him never giving her back the necklace. and it is only going to set up him giving her the necklace when he returns and having them fall in love all over again. Who even has that necklace right now? Does anyone remember? |
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(Stefan doesn't know about the Damon mind erase, does he!)
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Well if you do somehow get a chance to watch it later, let me know what you think. 
