leelala
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Post by leelala on May 27, 2014 17:22:35 GMT -5
DE supporters are no different to SE in the fact that both want their ship to be happy together, and engame, that is the PRIZE for shippers. I want Damon happy, and fulfilled for my endgame prize, and weirdly, he seemed to be in a good place with his speech to Elena in the finale. I have never seen Damon so at peace, fulfilled and accepting. In his own words "he peaked". In that moment, he had everything he ever wanted, true love, his brother and redemption. I am sad that it took his death for him to reach this point, but there goes the story of a tragic anti hero. WRT Elenas death, it had no other meaning other to show, rather than tell how much Elena loves Damon. God knows they did a piss poor job throughout the rest of S5. It is with trepidation and nervousness that I look to S6, whatever the writers have planned, I can almost guarantee that Damon will not fair well. I couldnt have said it better myself!!
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Kiki
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Post by Kiki on May 27, 2014 23:37:10 GMT -5
What makes you think that Stefan is no longer in Love with Elena? Yes he accepted DE but didn't he just say he will always love her at the fireplace before Elena destroyed that moment with her Damonproblems? I think he is still madly in love with her. Like Klaus said This love will never die. But he let her go because he wants her to get what she wants and accepts her free will no matter how bad he gets hurt in the process. Yeah they both said they would always love each other but theres a difference between being in love and having love for someone... That fireplace scene was them finding common ground and accepting that what they had was great and meaningful but they BOTH came to a mutual understanding of friendship... Stefan even said, you can either be in love with you or be friends with you .. So the fact that he had accepted her as his friend and made that comment is proof of him no longer being in love..
lets just agree to disagree on this. we'll see how it develops. for me it was stefan telling her that the love they used to have was as amazing as the visions and they can still have that because he will always love her
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Post by vampcares on May 28, 2014 4:09:45 GMT -5
Any news when will they show s6. This sucks!!! I gonna turno off my humanity switch and start compelling LOL.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2014 4:16:24 GMT -5
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Post by debbie on May 28, 2014 6:41:43 GMT -5
I've heard that... I also heard Damon will be human, and Bonnie will be a demon-they are just rumors. Besides, I doubt they'll go down the amnesia route again been there done that and look how long it lasted. Same with the human Damon, has too much of the even there done that feel. How about the gang being happy for once, that's never been explored I wouldn't dismiss the Damon/human rumor too easily. What's the one thing Damon never wants to be again...human! (island, anyone?), and what do TVD writers like to do to characters? Elena told us several times she never wanted to be a vamp, just like Damon told Elena about being human "can't think of anything worse” ?' I'm just saying TVD writers like to give their character's their worst nightmare. It's a two fer, lol Didn't think it was and my response wasn't meant to be a challenge..... I think the writers will definitely restore Defan by the end of the series...How could they not! The way I look at the series is, "Elena's love for both brothers being the catalyst for each of them to find redemption." Not as: "who get's the girl" in the end. Glad you decided to post this site, it's nice to share different views, even though we both know there's little chance of changing the others mind It's not about Changing minds, it's about seeing different views, challenge and finding common ground.
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Post by debbie on May 28, 2014 6:48:53 GMT -5
I've heard that... I also heard Damon will be human, and Bonnie will be a demon-they are just rumors. Besides, I doubt they'll go down the amnesia route again been there done that and look how long it lasted. Same with the human Damon, has too much of the even there done that feel. How about the gang being happy for once, that's never been explored I wouldn't dismiss the Damon/human rumor too easily. What's the one thing Damon never wants to be again...human! (island, anyone?), and what do TVD writers like to do to characters? Elena told us several times she never wanted to be a vamp, just like Damon told Elena about being human "can't think of anything worse” ?' I'm just saying TVD writers like to give their character's their worst nightmare. If it does happen and Damon becomes human, it would actually be a really good twist. We could use more humans, and you're right, tvd likes to give out vamps their biggest fears (Kat, Elena, Stefan with the ripper and coffin). But still confused...how Would it be different than Kat as a human? I'm sure he wouldn't age as fast as Kat, but he would still be as defenceless, relying on people as much as she did...so again, I'm trying to get tvd away from that repetitive feel.
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shoe20
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Post by shoe20 on May 28, 2014 7:08:27 GMT -5
Yeah they both said they would always love each other but theres a difference between being in love and having love for someone... That fireplace scene was them finding common ground and accepting that what they had was great and meaningful but they BOTH came to a mutual understanding of friendship... Stefan even said, you can either be in love with you or be friends with you .. So the fact that he had accepted her as his friend and made that comment is proof of him no longer being in love..
leelala, do you honestly believe the writers won't put SE back together before the end of the series? Or just hoping? I know you think DE is just on a "death break" and will fire back up the second Damon returns, but I don't think it's gonna be that easy. I really believe the show-runners will bring Damon back human and kill him again befor the series ends. I read spec about bring Damon back in another body for a possible 7 the season ..... As much as I dislike Damon's character, I can't imagine anyone playing him but Ian (he does a fantastic job!)
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shoe20
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Post by shoe20 on May 28, 2014 10:22:50 GMT -5
I wouldn't dismiss the Damon/human rumor too easily. What's the one thing Damon never wants to be again...human! (island, anyone?), and what do TVD writers like to do to characters? Elena told us several times she never wanted to be a vamp, just like Damon told Elena about being human "can't think of anything worse” ?' I'm just saying TVD writers like to give their character's their worst nightmare. If it does happen and Damon becomes human, it would actually be a really good twist. We could use more humans, and you're right, tvd likes to give out vamps their biggest fears (Kat, Elena, Stefan with the ripper and coffin). But still confused...how Would it be different than Kat as a human? I'm sure he wouldn't age as fast as Kat, but he would still be as defenceless, relying on people as much as she did...so again, I'm trying to get tvd away from that repetitive feel. debbie, when you quote....scroll down and click under the bottom line of the quote to respond...most of the time it's off your screen Damon as human is a great twist, and one I think the writers will produce, I don't think Damon morphing into human will be the same as Kat's! (no rapid aging) You won't like this but I think the writers will kill him again next year. Next season will contain a bunch or reviles, I hope!!! tying up those pesky plot-holes..( ie. Damon and Stefan being half brother's..The SB thing has not meant my level of acceptance, because it was too easy to break) You and I both know DE and SE are not the endgame of the series, but keep posting I love it.!!!! Enjoy your time with D-C and gwen, but I know you lust for debate. Hey me too. It get's stagnant posting to like-minded people, but a refuge at times. I love a page that has diversity! lol
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Post by vampcares on May 28, 2014 10:37:49 GMT -5
Damon being human nah. His character made who he is. Changing what he is gonna loose his identity.
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Post by shoe20 on May 28, 2014 10:43:04 GMT -5
Damon being human nah. His character made who he is. Changing what he is gonna loose his identity. Inviato dal mio Xperia U utilizzando Tapatalk If that's your real opinion ...... Brace yourself, because I really believe it's coming. Hey, I've been wrong before.
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Post by crimmyj on May 28, 2014 11:08:13 GMT -5
debbie, when you quote....scroll down and click under the bottom line of the quote to respond...most of the time it's off your screen Damon as human is a great twist, and one I think the writers will produce, I don't think Damon morphing into human will be the same as Kat's! (no rapid aging) You won't like this but I think the writers will kill him again next year. Next season will contain a bunch or reviles, I hope!!! tying up those pesky plot-holes..( ie. Damon and Stefan being half brother's..The SB thing has not meant my level of acceptance, because it was too easy to break) You and I both know DE and SE are not the endgame of the series, but keep posting I love it.!!!! Enjoy your time with D-C and gwen, but I know you lust for debate. Hey me too. It get's stagnant posting to like-minded people, but a refuge at times. I love a page that has diversity! lol I may be wrong here but wasn't Kat's aging process more of a result of practically being drained of her blood (containing the cure) than the cure itself. So say if Damon took the cure, you know if there was just one lying about, then we wouldn't have to worry about him going gray or having a heart attack mid coitus or anything. Though I can't think of a better way for Damon to finally shuffle of this mortal coil than becoming a silver fox and dying doing the deed. I'm weird like that.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2014 11:14:14 GMT -5
I may be wrong here but wasn't Kat's aging process more of a result of practically being drained of her blood (containing the cure) than the cure itself. So say if Damon took the cure, you know if there was just one lying about, then we wouldn't have to worry about him going gray or having a heart attack mid coitus or anything. Though I can't think of a better way for Damon to finally shuffle of this mortal coil than becoming a silver fox and dying doing the deed. I'm weird like that. You are hilarious. heart attack mid coitus, dying doing the deed. I nearly cracked up. Good that i had already drunken my coffee hahaha
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Post by Andrew55 on May 28, 2014 11:25:28 GMT -5
I still believe that Stefan is very much in love with Elena. However, Elena is not in love with Stefan...at the moment. When the love and longing is one sided, the only thing healthy to do for the person who is in love would be to move on and acceptance. I think that is what Stefan is doing. He still is madly in love with Elena but he has accepted she is in love with Damon. So I think he will try to move on with his life...hence the Steroline rumors. He owes it to himself to at least see if anything is there. But I don't believe for a second that the triangle is over. I think the triangle is on a break, for now. But as S6 goes along, I have a feeling that some feelings in Elena are going to arise again. She will start to feel something for Stefan. Maybe it will start out as jealousy when she sees Stefan/Caroline together. Maybe it will be something else. But if anyone thinks the triangle is truly over, they are being kind of naive. This show is built and promoted around the triangle whether fans like that or not. I also agree that if/when Damon returns it is not just going to be Delena blissfulness. Damon is going to be changed by the whole experience. Could he come back human? It's possible. Could it be something else? I don't know but I do know he won't come back the same Damon. Elena will also be changed by the whole experience. I think this whole thing will force her to become a more independent person. She will re-find herself and who she was. When people change sometimes it's hard to go back to what was and they finally accept what is. I think the show is leading to another big choice but this time it will be the brothers choosing each other. It won't be Elena making some big choice. I could be wrong though. The SE fan in me hopes I'm wrong.
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Post by Andrew55 on May 28, 2014 11:38:40 GMT -5
Did anyone else ever consider that wherever Bonnie and Damon went to...they are happy and at peace. Maybe they don't want to be rescued. Is it possible that when Stefan, Elena or whoever rescues them that they could be kind of resentful or angry for being brought back to the land of the living? If anyone watches Supernatural you will know what I mean. This last season, in the premiere, Sam was willing to die and was at peace with that decision. Then Dean made a deal to bring him back and Sam was resentful towards Dean for taking away his choice at finding peace. Could it be the same type of situation in regards to Damon and Bonnie? Could or would they be resentful for being brought back and taken away from the peace they thought they found? Just wondering.
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Post by crimmyj on May 28, 2014 11:49:34 GMT -5
Did anyone else ever consider that wherever Bonnie and Damon went to...they are happy and at peace. Maybe they don't want to be rescued. Is it possible that when Stefan, Elena or whoever rescues them that they could be kind of resentful or angry for being brought back to the land of the living? If anyone watches Supernatural you will know what I mean. This last season, in the premiere, Sam was willing to die and was at peace with that decision. Then Dean made a deal to bring him back and Sam was resentful towards Dean for taking away his choice at finding peace. Could it be the same type of situation in regards to Damon and Bonnie? Could or would they be resentful for being brought back and taken away from the peace they thought they found? Just wondering. oooo I am feeling you on this one. While you are using Supernatural as your comparison point, I was thinking Buffy Season 6. When Willow brought Buffy back it forever altered the dynamic between the scoobies. When Buffy died, she made peace with her sacrifice, so when she was brought back...to have to fight again (not just demons but real world problems too BILLS!) she definitely dealt with resentment and depression. I could easily see this becoming a thing if Bonnie or Damon are brought back
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