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Post by wednesday on May 15, 2014 14:54:46 GMT -5
MONDAY
8:00-9:00 P.M. “THE ORIGINALS”
The first season of THE ORIGINALS brought the most formidable creature on earth, the Original vampire-werewolf hybrid Klaus Mikaelson (Joseph Morgan), back to his former home – the vibrant and supernaturally charged city of New Orleans. When he arrived, his siblings Elijah (Daniel Gillies) and Rebekah (Claire Holt) not far behind, he was stunned to learn that werewolf Hayley Marshall (Phoebe Tonkin) was pregnant with his child. Though Elijah hoped that the news of a baby might help rebuild their fractured family, other forces threatened to destroy it further: namely, Marcel Gerard (Charles Michael Davis), Klaus’ beloved vampire protégé, whom the Originals thought to be long dead, and a dark secret that Marcel and Rebekah held for a century. The Originals and Hayley soon found themselves caught in a bloody war between vampires and witches, the stakes raised by a vengeful young witch, Davina (Danielle Campbell), and by Klaus’ surprising connection to Cami (Leah Pipes), a student with a painful past. Meanwhile, Hayley helped her exiled werewolf family return to the French Quarter, unaware that a ruthless pack of wolves was already lurking in the city, waiting to stage a violent coup on the vampires. As the first season came to a close, the werewolves decimated the vampire community while the witches made a horrific assassination attempt against Klaus and Hayley’s newborn daughter. Season two finds our heroes adjusting to a new status quo, with the newly empowered werewolves controlling the city, Klaus struggling to adjust to new weaknesses, and Elijah desperate to save Hayley, now a hybrid, from a vicious spiral of self-destruction. THE ORIGINALS is from Bonanza Productions Inc. in association with My So-Called Company, Alloy Entertainment, Warner Bros. Television and CBS Television Studios.
Julie Plec (“The Vampire Diaries,” “Kyle XY,” “Wasteland”) and Leslie Morgenstein (“The Vampire Diaries,” “Gossip Girl”) are executive producers.
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Post by shoe20 on May 20, 2014 17:30:55 GMT -5
I really enjoyed season 1....I did it with no posts / no spoilers ... just wk to wk. S2 I'm all in. lol I am still a little gun shy about getting hooked on a JP series, but now it's too late. lol  |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2014 17:47:14 GMT -5
I really enjoyed season 1....I did it with no posts / no spoilers ... just wk to wk. S2 I'm all in. lol I am still a little gun shy about getting hooked on a JP series, but now it's too late. lol hahaha...I loved the Originals, it was awesome and hope it stays that way. I admit that I had lost interest for TVD around the middle of the seasson, all that Augustine crap stuff, Whitmore etc. and not to mention the Gregorian chant choir, it does make sense though now. The season 5 has been the weakest. But I think they have managed to make up with the last third of the season esp. with the penultimate and finale episode. How do they do that? I loved season 1-3, really liked season 4 and season 5 just got back on the rails in time ...at least for me. You know, I have my favourites, I loathe certain characters, but I am not a fanatic, so I guess I am quite groovy ...and even BUFFY my alltime fav show had a weak season 4, but 3 good seasons thereafter. I have always had or tried to have a very wholesome approach of TVD and TO now. In the time when my laptop died I watched season 1 and 2 of TVD and I will start with season 3 and end with rewatching se 5. This season I have managed to stay away from spoilers as well, I watched the promos though |
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Post by wednesday on May 20, 2014 18:54:27 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2014 19:10:31 GMT -5
OMFG ... if esther, Finn and Mikael will be hanging around, things will cook up and become very very uncomfortable for our Originals and adopted son. |
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Post by wednesday on May 21, 2014 14:35:19 GMT -5
SPOILER:
Question: I’m so excited to see Hayley as a hybrid on The Originals. Any chance Elijah will become her vampire mentor? –Jess
Ausiello: Well, Jess, you’re not alone; Phoebe Tonkin is also stoked about her new role. “I’m so excited, they’ve already fitted me for fangs,” Tonkin tells TVLine. “I’ve always wanted to play a vampire, so I couldn’t be more thrilled.” As for which of the bloodsuckers in her life will be showing her how to use those fangs, Tonkin is wary of planting any Haylijah seeds in our heads. “It’ll be interesting to see who she strikes up relationships with during this journey,” she teases. “Maybe she and Klaus could form an unexpected friendship.”
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Post by Andrew55 on May 22, 2014 11:49:30 GMT -5
Can I just say bravo to Julie Plec, the entire writing team and all the actors involved. This was a great first season.  As much as I hated seeing Claire Holt leave the show, I am glad they found a role for Rebekah without having to have her on the show. I'm intrigued about the Hayley "hybrid" story line. This could go so many ways. I think this story line will help her understand the vampires more, especially Klaus, Elijah and Marcel going forward. My favorite character is Davina. I am so interested to see how far she is willing to go to get revenge on Klaus/Elijah. I mean will she actually let Mikael kill them or will she eventually have a change of heart? And if she does have a change of heart...how does she send Mikael back? Is it just as simple as killing him or is his existence tied to something else now? I am excited to see Esther and Finn come back. At least I'm pretty sure that was Finn. Quick question for all TVD fans....what did Klaus do with Finn and Esther's real bodies? Are they still stashed away somewhere? I should probably know but I'm too lazy to do the necessary digging.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2014 20:14:33 GMT -5
Can I just say bravo to Julie Plec, the entire writing team and all the actors involved. This was a great first season. As much as I hated seeing Claire Holt leave the show, I am glad they found a role for Rebekah without having to have her on the show. I'm intrigued about the Hayley "hybrid" story line. This could go so many ways. I think this story line will help her understand the vampires more, especially Klaus, Elijah and Marcel going forward. My favorite character is Davina. I am so interested to see how far she is willing to go to get revenge on Klaus/Elijah. I mean will she actually let Mikael kill them or will she eventually have a change of heart? And if she does have a change of heart...how does she send Mikael back? Is it just as simple as killing him or is his existence tied to something else now? I am excited to see Esther and Finn come back. At least I'm pretty sure that was Finn. Quick question for all TVD fans....what did Klaus do with Finn and Esther's real bodies? Are they still stashed away somewhere? I should probably know but I'm too lazy to do the necessary digging. I think Esther was brought back in another body because the actress who played her originally was never going to be on the show. The actor who played Finn might have been interested, but because of what was being done with Esther, the same thing had to be done with Finn so that actor got screwed out of a role. People demanding to see Kol again might see his character played by someone else as well. Nate Buzolic might have been misquoted in typed interviews, but according to his behavior on camera, he was only interested in returning to The Vampire Diaries. I don't think Julie Plec was the problem, if there was one that led to Kol's character death. If Nate Buzolic ran into a problem with anyone in the TVD family, it might have been Joseph Morgan. I really can't say for sure, though. All I know is that the harassment of Julie Plec on Twitter over this issue came from an ignorant place. I honestly hoped that they wouldn't repeat the same storyline from TVD where Esther, Mikael, and Finn all want to kill vampires. Klaus and Rebekah brought up the possibility that Mikael victimized them because someone broke him, and I wish someone would explore that further. I would want to see the dynamic of Mikael and Esther's relationship after all of the stunts that Esther has pulled. It wasn't really established whether Mikael actually forgave Esther for turning her family into monsters AFTER cheating on him and having a child with a werewolf. Mikael had so many centuries to kill his children and he never managed to do it, which leads me to believe that like Davina, Mikael talks big but doesn't have the heart to follow through. I look forward to seeing the coming dynamic between Mikael and Davina. There definitely shouldn't be a relationship because she's only 16 or 17 years old, but they have one thing in common: their plans to hurt Klaus usually go terribly wrong. Those two could go one of two ways: Either they'll ally themselves with Esther and Finn, or they'll start to work out their issues while they're trapped in that attic together like two Game of Thrones characters that Julie Plec mentioned. Hayley being a hybrid is a very good twist and a way for anyone who had doubts about her character to become more interested in her character. The problem with Hayley before was that she was a danger to hybrids. While I didn't support the idea of Klaus possibly killing her after the baby was born, I could see why he wouldn't want her raising his child after what she did in Mystic Falls. Now that's irrelevant, and unfortunately, the baby is gone. Of course a baby doesn't belong in this genre anyway. I was glad to see that the writers found a way to get the baby off the show without killing the baby. Some very deranged fans kept telling the cast and crew that they hoped the baby would die. I have a feeling that Hayley will immediately seek a way to break her sire bond to the baby. It will be too much for her to be sired to her infant daughter, who she can't be around. Provided that TO writers don't mess with mythology again, the sire bond will probably be broken one of two ways: Hayley will change into a wolf several hundred times (which Elijah probably won't allow and it might not have even worked for Tyler, other than to make him hate his sire), or Hayley will turn off her humanity (which would explain the spoilers about Hayley going dark). I don't care if this reminds anyone of Elena. Sure, if Hayley starts to behave too much like Elena did, someone should definitely mention that on the show. One thing on my wish list for Season 2 of this show is that the writers will address the plot hole concerning how Hope exists. As long as the baby will be part of the show, someone needs to explain where the baby came from. Some explanations have been dreamed up, but the truth is the baby isn't as big an elephant in the room as the absence of doppelganger blood when Hope was conceived, carried, and born. The whole theory about a loophole in nature would only explain Hope if she was born a werewolf. A hybrid who can sire her own hybrids was actually created through conception and natural childbirth. It would take more than just Klaus and a werewolf to do that, no matter what kind of lineage the werewolf comes from. The Crescent clan most likely earned a place of power over other werewolves after simply fighting with the other wolves. They can't have any additional, special power if Hayley's parents were killed by other werewolves in what was probably routine backstabbing and betrayal. For a while I believed that doppelganger blood was used for the Crescent curse, and that made it possible for Hope to be conceived, but if that was the case, Hope would have died when the curse was broken. In addition to how Klaus is suddenly able to have children, maybe it should also be figured out what the circumstances have to be and how often it can happen. He's immortal and can't be killed. There has to be some mystical limit, at least, to how many children he can have at one time. |
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Post by Andrew55 on May 24, 2014 0:45:43 GMT -5
Can I just say bravo to Julie Plec, the entire writing team and all the actors involved. This was a great first season. As much as I hated seeing Claire Holt leave the show, I am glad they found a role for Rebekah without having to have her on the show. I'm intrigued about the Hayley "hybrid" story line. This could go so many ways. I think this story line will help her understand the vampires more, especially Klaus, Elijah and Marcel going forward. My favorite character is Davina. I am so interested to see how far she is willing to go to get revenge on Klaus/Elijah. I mean will she actually let Mikael kill them or will she eventually have a change of heart? And if she does have a change of heart...how does she send Mikael back? Is it just as simple as killing him or is his existence tied to something else now? I am excited to see Esther and Finn come back. At least I'm pretty sure that was Finn. Quick question for all TVD fans....what did Klaus do with Finn and Esther's real bodies? Are they still stashed away somewhere? I should probably know but I'm too lazy to do the necessary digging. I think Esther was brought back in another body because the actress who played her originally was never going to be on the show. The actor who played Finn might have been interested, but because of what was being done with Esther, the same thing had to be done with Finn so that actor got screwed out of a role. People demanding to see Kol again might see his character played by someone else as well. Nate Buzolic might have been misquoted in typed interviews, but according to his behavior on camera, he was only interested in returning to The Vampire Diaries. I don't think Julie Plec was the problem, if there was one that led to Kol's character death. If Nate Buzolic ran into a problem with anyone in the TVD family, it might have been Joseph Morgan. I really can't say for sure, though. All I know is that the harassment of Julie Plec on Twitter over this issue came from an ignorant place. I honestly hoped that they wouldn't repeat the same storyline from TVD where Esther, Mikael, and Finn all want to kill vampires. Klaus and Rebekah brought up the possibility that Mikael victimized them because someone broke him, and I wish someone would explore that further. I would want to see the dynamic of Mikael and Esther's relationship after all of the stunts that Esther has pulled. It wasn't really established whether Mikael actually forgave Esther for turning her family into monsters AFTER cheating on him and having a child with a werewolf. Mikael had so many centuries to kill his children and he never managed to do it, which leads me to believe that like Davina, Mikael talks big but doesn't have the heart to follow through. I look forward to seeing the coming dynamic between Mikael and Davina. There definitely shouldn't be a relationship because she's only 16 or 17 years old, but they have one thing in common: their plans to hurt Klaus usually go terribly wrong. Those two could go one of two ways: Either they'll ally themselves with Esther and Finn, or they'll start to work out their issues while they're trapped in that attic together like two Game of Thrones characters that Julie Plec mentioned. Hayley being a hybrid is a very good twist and a way for anyone who had doubts about her character to become more interested in her character. The problem with Hayley before was that she was a danger to hybrids. While I didn't support the idea of Klaus possibly killing her after the baby was born, I could see why he wouldn't want her raising his child after what she did in Mystic Falls. Now that's irrelevant, and unfortunately, the baby is gone. Of course a baby doesn't belong in this genre anyway. I was glad to see that the writers found a way to get the baby off the show without killing the baby. Some very deranged fans kept telling the cast and crew that they hoped the baby would die. I have a feeling that Hayley will immediately seek a way to break her sire bond to the baby. It will be too much for her to be sired to her infant daughter, who she can't be around. Provided that TO writers don't mess with mythology again, the sire bond will probably be broken one of two ways: Hayley will change into a wolf several hundred times (which Elijah probably won't allow and it might not have even worked for Tyler, other than to make him hate his sire), or Hayley will turn off her humanity (which would explain the spoilers about Hayley going dark). I don't care if this reminds anyone of Elena. Sure, if Hayley starts to behave too much like Elena did, someone should definitely mention that on the show. One thing on my wish list for Season 2 of this show is that the writers will address the plot hole concerning how Hope exists. As long as the baby will be part of the show, someone needs to explain where the baby came from. Some explanations have been dreamed up, but the truth is the baby isn't as big an elephant in the room as the absence of doppelganger blood when Hope was conceived, carried, and born. The whole theory about a loophole in nature would only explain Hope if she was born a werewolf. A hybrid who can sire her own hybrids was actually created through conception and natural childbirth. It would take more than just Klaus and a werewolf to do that, no matter what kind of lineage the werewolf comes from. The Crescent clan most likely earned a place of power over other werewolves after simply fighting with the other wolves. They can't have any additional, special power if Hayley's parents were killed by other werewolves in what was probably routine backstabbing and betrayal. For a while I believed that doppelganger blood was used for the Crescent curse, and that made it possible for Hope to be conceived, but if that was the case, Hope would have died when the curse was broken. In addition to how Klaus is suddenly able to have children, maybe it should also be figured out what the circumstances have to be and how often it can happen. He's immortal and can't be killed. There has to be some mystical limit, at least, to how many children he can have at one time. Here's the thing we need to remember. Julie said that fans who wanted to start watching The Originals did not also have to watch TVD. Even though they reference each other, have characters that cross over and exist in the same universe....they are completely separate shows. You can't have some explanation for the baby to involve doppelgangers because then people would have to watch TVD to figure it all out. And that would completely go against Julie's selling point (you don't need to watch or familiarize with TVD to watch this show). So I think they explained it in one of the early episodes. That part of Klaus that is a werewolf allowed him to impregnate Hayley who is a werewolf. And because Klaus is a Hybrid the baby will also have his hybrid blood. Those are the babies origins in a nut shell. Now could they explain it further? Yes but it would have to be something that is minus the doppelganger blood. |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2014 13:02:53 GMT -5
Here's the thing we need to remember. Julie said that fans who wanted to start watching The Originals did not also have to watch TVD. Even though they reference each other, have characters that cross over and exist in the same universe....they are completely separate shows. You can't have some explanation for the baby to involve doppelgangers because then people would have to watch TVD to figure it all out. And that would completely go against Julie's selling point (you don't need to watch or familiarize with TVD to watch this show). So I think they explained it in one of the early episodes. That part of Klaus that is a werewolf allowed him to impregnate Hayley who is a werewolf. And because Klaus is a Hybrid the baby will also have his hybrid blood. Those are the babies origins in a nut shell. Now could they explain it further? Yes but it would have to be something that is minus the doppelganger blood. This is one of the reasons why so many people didn't like the baby storyline. There shouldn't have been a baby because there is no adequate way to explain the baby without tying the two shows together in a way that you yourself would find dissatisfying. That being said, the shows are not completely separate. The stories tend to run parallel in some ways. There was a traveler on TO (Celeste), yet no one on TO acknowledged her as anything but a creepy witch. The problems on the Other Side, or the Spirit World as it was called on TO (another way that TVD mythology was interfered with), spread onto TO so that another TVD character (Mikael) could be brought onto TO and a TVD storyline could be recycled. Since Tyler's character was screwed up so much on TO, and now Mikael, Esther, and Finn are on TO with apparently the same mission they had on TVD, the two shows are far too intertwined anyway. Julie Plec can talk about keeping the shows separate all she wants, but the truth is, the TO writers just don't know how to handle a spin-off, and I'm pretty sure the EPs are out of creative ideas, so an increasing number of TVD characters and mythology are being recycled and messed with on TO. To put it bluntly, Julie Plec and Michael Narducci screwed up. The only way to fix the plot holes and keep TO from going downhill much sooner than TVD did is to address the TVD mythology that TO has been messing with. People might not like the idea of hearing the word "doppelganger" on TO, and I for one am sick of that storyline on TVD, but Julie Plec and Michael Narducci are the ones who insisted on bringing a baby onto the show and not adequately explaining it. If an explanation is devised that doesn't involve Elena, who is the reason that Klaus' werewolf side can do anything, that will be a sure way to know that TO is doomed to fail. It's a spin-off created by producers known to recycle storylines. It can never be treated like a separate show without serious plot holes over time that will cause the show to lose ratings significantly by the end of Season 2. TO shows a lot of promise as a show, but it needs to be acknowledged as a spin-off. It can't be treated separately while so many characters and storylines from the main show are being brought over to it and then meddled with in negative and confusing ways. EDIT: As for Hope having Klaus' blood and both of her parents being part werewolf being a good enough explanation, it's not. It does not explain how Hope is able to sire her own hybrids while Klaus can't. That is one aspect of Hope's mythology in which the TO writers went too far, unless they plan to give a further explanation for her existence in Season 2. I honestly hope they do. |
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Post by Andrew55 on May 24, 2014 15:24:49 GMT -5
Here's the thing we need to remember. Julie said that fans who wanted to start watching The Originals did not also have to watch TVD. Even though they reference each other, have characters that cross over and exist in the same universe....they are completely separate shows. You can't have some explanation for the baby to involve doppelgangers because then people would have to watch TVD to figure it all out. And that would completely go against Julie's selling point (you don't need to watch or familiarize with TVD to watch this show). So I think they explained it in one of the early episodes. That part of Klaus that is a werewolf allowed him to impregnate Hayley who is a werewolf. And because Klaus is a Hybrid the baby will also have his hybrid blood. Those are the babies origins in a nut shell. Now could they explain it further? Yes but it would have to be something that is minus the doppelganger blood. This is one of the reasons why so many people didn't like the baby storyline. There shouldn't have been a baby because there is no adequate way to explain the baby without tying the two shows together in a way that you yourself would find dissatisfying. That being said, the shows are not completely separate. The stories tend to run parallel in some ways. There was a traveler on TO (Celeste), yet no one on TO acknowledged her as anything but a creepy witch. The problems on the Other Side, or the Spirit World as it was called on TO (another way that TVD mythology was interfered with), spread onto TO so that another TVD character (Mikael) could be brought onto TO and a TVD storyline could be recycled. Since Tyler's character was screwed up so much on TO, and now Mikael, Esther, and Finn are on TO with apparently the same mission they had on TVD, the two shows are far too intertwined anyway. Julie Plec can talk about keeping the shows separate all she wants, but the truth is, the TO writers just don't know how to handle a spin-off, and I'm pretty sure the EPs are out of creative ideas, so an increasing number of TVD characters and mythology are being recycled and messed with on TO. To put it bluntly, Julie Plec and Michael Narducci screwed up. The only way to fix the plot holes and keep TO from going downhill much sooner than TVD did is to address the TVD mythology that TO has been messing with. People might not like the idea of hearing the word "doppelganger" on TO, and I for one am sick of that storyline on TVD, but Julie Plec and Michael Narducci are the ones who insisted on bringing a baby onto the show and not adequately explaining it. If an explanation is devised that doesn't involve Elena, who is the reason that Klaus' werewolf side can do anything, that will be a sure way to know that TO is doomed to fail. It's a spin-off created by producers known to recycle storylines. It can never be treated like a separate show without serious plot holes over time that will cause the show to lose ratings significantly by the end of Season 2. TO shows a lot of promise as a show, but it needs to be acknowledged as a spin-off. It can't be treated separately while so many characters and storylines from the main show are being brought over to it and then meddled with in negative and confusing ways. EDIT: As for Hope having Klaus' blood and both of her parents being part werewolf being a good enough explanation, it's not. It does not explain how Hope is able to sire her own hybrids while Klaus can't. That is one aspect of Hope's mythology in which the TO writers went too far, unless they plan to give a further explanation for her existence in Season 2. I honestly hope they do. I have had people who have only watched The Originals say they love the show and didn't feel like anything was missing or had huge plot holes. So I think it differs from viewer to viewer on how they view the show. Since you have watched TVD you may see more plot holes then, let's say, someone who only just started watching The Originals. Both TVD and The Originals are in the same universe and are running parallel to each other. I'm not arguing that fact. However, the writers have done it in a way where if you watch both shows then you connect the story lines but if you just watch The Originals the story still makes sense for that core audience. Shows are going to have plot holes...it happens. I guess I just don't see any glaring ones on this show but again that is just my opinion. |
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Post by Ruby on May 24, 2014 16:29:16 GMT -5
@seiwriter Andrew55 I am one of those viewers who fell for the Originals back door pilot when 50 million people hated it and it was a bit discouraging but I enjoyed the baby storyline and how they went about it. I havent really seen any plotholes in the originals that i can recall at least |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2014 16:31:16 GMT -5
@seiwriter Andrew55 I am one of those viewers who fell for the Originals back door pilot when 50 million people hated it and it was a bit discouraging but I enjoyed the baby storyline and how they went about it. I havent really seen any plotholes in the originals that i can recall at least Agree with you and I fell for it as well  |
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As much as I hated seeing Claire Holt leave the show, I am glad they found a role for Rebekah without having to have her on the show. I'm intrigued about the Hayley "hybrid" story line. This could go so many ways. I think this story line will help her understand the vampires more, especially Klaus, Elijah and Marcel going forward. My favorite character is Davina. I am so interested to see how far she is willing to go to get revenge on Klaus/Elijah. I mean will she actually let Mikael kill them or will she eventually have a change of heart? And if she does have a change of heart...how does she send Mikael back? Is it just as simple as killing him or is his existence tied to something else now? I am excited to see Esther and Finn come back. At least I'm pretty sure that was Finn. Quick question for all TVD fans....what did Klaus do with Finn and Esther's real bodies? Are they still stashed away somewhere? I should probably know but I'm too lazy to do the necessary digging. 
Well if you do somehow get a chance to watch it later, let me know what you think. 
Hope you're doing well. 