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Post by stelena4ever on Oct 28, 2014 19:31:00 GMT -5
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Post by stelena4ever on Nov 4, 2014 19:54:21 GMT -5
This is a video about when Stefan died in S5. I just wish Elena had his reaction in the episode. But she didn't. Just another thing the writers ruined about Stelena. This is a great song.
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Post by napoli on Nov 4, 2014 21:03:06 GMT -5
This is a video about when Stefan died in S5. I just wish Elena had his reaction in the episode. But she didn't. Just another thing the writers ruined about Stelena. This is a great song.
The worst part about tearing SE apart is that they weren't even torn apart but rather slowly nudged away from each because of the sire bond. And with Elena being fairly emotionless in s4 unless it related to Damon we never got to see Elena mourn for the great relationship she had with Stefan. Now what's worse is that it's as though the writers can retcon that relationship (Elena loving Damon as early as 3x01) further kicking SE in the face, heart, gut - you get what I mean.
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Post by stelena4ever on Nov 6, 2014 9:41:20 GMT -5
This is a video about when Stefan died in S5. I just wish Elena had his reaction in the episode. But she didn't. Just another thing the writers ruined about Stelena. This is a great song.
The worst part about tearing SE apart is that they weren't even torn apart but rather slowly nudged away from each because of the sire bond. And with Elena being fairly emotionless in s4 unless it related to Damon we never got to see Elena mourn for the great relationship she had with Stefan. Now what's worse is that it's as though the writers can retcon that relationship (Elena loving Damon as early as 3x01) further kicking SE in the face, heart, gut - you get what I mean. I totally agree with you napoli, they were never torn apart or grew apart like Stefan said in 5x18. One day Elena chooses Stefan. He is the one she wants to be with. A few days later she wants to be with Damon, because of the sire bond, but there was no tearing apart, there was no growing apart. The worst part for me is that the writers don't even mention the sire bond anymore, that this is why Elena went to Damon. No mention of it at all. This sucks the most.
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Post by napoli on Nov 10, 2014 17:23:40 GMT -5
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Kiki
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Post by Kiki on Nov 21, 2014 11:18:53 GMT -5
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Post by stelena4ever on Nov 21, 2014 20:47:48 GMT -5
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Post by stelena4ever on Nov 22, 2014 19:54:23 GMT -5
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Post by deb on Nov 24, 2014 18:46:30 GMT -5
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Post by napoli on Nov 24, 2014 19:35:50 GMT -5
This video made me remember why I loved SE and TVD so much. I miss it when Paul this much passion about playing Stefan. Me too! I guess the fact that Stefan isn't as passionate is not necessarily a bad thing. He's without the love of his life and I think that Stefan seeming lost - even though Damon has now returned - is his way of dealing with his unrequited love for Elena. Damon was intrusive and inappropriate with Elena in order to get out his affection (or whatever he felt for Elena because I just can't call that kind of toxic relationship love) but Stefan's not like that. We see over and over how the writers show the difference between the brothers. They can't show ripper Stefan or amnesia Stefan anymore because that response isn't appropriate. Damon went all monster like killing Aaron and almost killing Jeremy in the process when Katlena broke up with him. Stefan won't be like that so what's left for him except seeming lost and dispassionate. Stefan also perks up when he has scenes with Elena. Again, he's not being inappropriate like Damon but he's still being a happier version of his lost self around her.
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Post by deb on Nov 25, 2014 6:06:11 GMT -5
napoli, do you think Paul is doing this on purpose? Because without Elena there's no joy or happiness in Stefan's life? Without her, he's lost? I thought that Paul didn't know how to play Stefan anymore, because of the bad writting but, if this is right, it breaks my heart, poor Stefy
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Post by stelena4ever on Nov 25, 2014 19:23:22 GMT -5
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Post by napoli on Nov 26, 2014 11:45:10 GMT -5
napoli, do you think Paul is doing this on purpose? Because without Elena there's no joy or happiness in Stefan's life? Without her, he's lost? I thought that Paul didn't know how to play Stefan anymore, because of the bad writting but, if this is right, it breaks my heart, poor Stefy I do think it's done on purpose. The actors are professionals. I don't believe for a minute that they would let their personal feelings affect their job. An off day is one thing but to have someone continually show disinterest and melancholy is unacceptable when it's not part of the character. We've seen Stefan with Elena. We know they are soul mates and they belong together. They bring out the best in each other. If Stefan was able to just move on with Ivy (or whoever) and be just as happy and functional then SE would mean less. Even though DE was shown to love each other they were also portrayed as toxic and unhealthy. They aren't soul mate material. No one would ever want to spend their life seeking out a partner like Damon that brought such dysfunction and misery. If DE were in love and healthy with each other then that too would make SE less meaningful. I absolutely think they have to have Stefan continue being disengaged because he's not complete. We don't have the luxury of the journal writing anymore to get to Stefan's true feelings but eventually there is usually a scene that explains what he is going through. In s5 there was the 'what's the point of being good' speech and just before Damon came back they had Stefan reveal just how lost he was without his brother. Now we have Stefan not understanding why Caroline would love him but not much of why Stefan feels this way has been revealed - yet.
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Post by deb on Nov 26, 2014 12:10:21 GMT -5
napoli, do you think Paul is doing this on purpose? Because without Elena there's no joy or happiness in Stefan's life? Without her, he's lost? I thought that Paul didn't know how to play Stefan anymore, because of the bad writting but, if this is right, it breaks my heart, poor Stefy I do think it's done on purpose. The actors are professionals. I don't believe for a minute that they would let their personal feelings affect their job. An off day is one thing but to have someone continually show disinterest and melancholy is unacceptable when it's not part of the character is completely unacceptable. We've seen Stefan with Elena. We know they are soul mates and they belong together. They bring out the best in each other. If Stefan was able to just move on with Ivy (or whoever) and be just as happy and functional then SE would mean less. Even though DE was shown to love each other they were also portrayed as toxic and unhealthy. They aren't soul mate material. No one would ever want to spend their life seeking out a partner like Damon that brought such dysfunction and misery. If DE were in love and healthy with each other then that too would make SE less meaningful. I absolutely think they have to have Stefan continue being disengaged because he's not complete. We don't have the luxury of the journal writing anymore to get to Stefan's true feelings but eventually there is usually a scene that explains what he is going through. In s5 there was the 'what's the point of being good' speech and just before Damon came back they had Stefan reveal just how lost he was without his brother. Now we have Stefan not understanding why Caroline would love him but not much of why Stefan feels this way has been revealed - yet. Always the voice of reason, napoli. Thank you so much for this little amount of hope that the writers know what they are doing.
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Post by stelena4ever on Dec 1, 2014 19:57:24 GMT -5
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