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Dracula
Oct 29, 2013 4:52:33 GMT -5
Post by Slash on Oct 29, 2013 4:52:33 GMT -5
Didn't see a thread (point me to it if I'm blind) but decided to give the pilot a watch. Was quite surprised by what I got.
The era works and I like the take on Dracula for this (American industrialist (?)/inventor cover while he takes out his vengeance on the Order of the Dragon?, a group that manipulates the world from behind the scenes). Also to boot, we have Van Helsing present, who is the one who revived Dracula in the first place to help him bring down the Order cause they slaughtered his family as well.
Was kind of cool to know that the Order created the 'Jack the Ripper' story/persona to cover up for Vampires in the city a few years back. And judging by the season preview, it looks like the blonde who works for the Order takes a liking to Dracula, I'm assuming not knowing he's a Vampire the entire time but still letting her judgment get clouded when interests divert from the Order?
It's a Friday show so it fits nicely in my week and doesn't conflict with anything. I can easily tune in every week live.
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Dracula
Oct 29, 2013 7:51:54 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2013 7:51:54 GMT -5
I liked the pilot very much, and the approach as well. The light, the period drama, the costumes, it promises to be a spectacular series. They have chosen the actors very well, I especially liked the way Lucy was portrayed. Of course JRM as the Count is a very good choice as well. He has a natural introvertedness and darkness that is becoming for the role of the Count. Good to watch Thomas Kretschmann for once not playing a Nazi or German general in an international production. I will definitely watch the show on Saturday online. No live stream because the time is just too late for European conditions.
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Post by Slash on Nov 2, 2013 6:17:41 GMT -5
Way to dump on your girl's dream Harker. She's put up with people doubting her becoming a physician and I'm sure he knows that but for her to hear that's what he thinks (that she'll hopefully forget about it when he asks her to marry him) when she just aced her exam and came in the top of her class? SMH. And apparently, he's never offered anything negative about it or even offered encouragement/support according to her. It just is I guess. Well, he can put marriage on the back burner.
Dracula offered Harker a job with a better salary and a nice house. Dracula needs someone who can provide more 'dirty' details on the Order members. Harker however was going to turn it down cause he thought the whole offer was shady/awkward. Mina told him to take it though.
I like how Dracula and Mina's scene was in this episode with him offering her a ride to her class before it started to rain. Dracula knows she looks like his wife and Mina also thinks he's familiar to her but there was still that air of awkwardness about them sitting in the carriage together but him supporting her and assuring her of her dreams and that she'd do fine, even later, showing up to hear that she passed her exam with his words of wisdom driving her.
I am however confused about the relationship with Lady Jayne. Does he not know she's of the Order? Or is this his way to get at her? I'm wondering if both being revealed to each other (one Dracula, a Vampire and the other a high member of the Order) will shock them and put some doubt in what they're going to do going forward (Jayne won't kill him and despite Dracula's goal to watch the Order burn, he might let her walk if he truly comes to appreciate her company). Was cutting it close when he was feeding though and almost getting caught by Lady Jayne. I'm guessing he feeds irregularly? In the pilot, he fed on the one girl but I don't think he killed her, or at least, they didn't show it. In this episode, he was way more messy so I'm kind of thinking it may have been a while since he last fed (how long has passed between the pilot and that night?) and he was letting the hunger take over. Then again, so far, we've seen no use of compulsion so he doesn't have the luxury of making people forget that the new pioneer in town is going around biting young women.
Interesting bit this episode about the Seers. Lady Jayne went to them to find the Vampire making the kills and although they found him, Dracula knew he was being watched and was able to break their mirror through that connection. This news has shocked the Order cause it's rare and Vampires have to be at least 2-3 centuries old to have such an ability. Apparently they don't run into many that old and from the preview for next week, Dracula is over 400 years at this point. Wonder what else he can do due to his age and I'm wondering if a lot of it will be new to the Order with dealing with a Vampire this old.
Have to say I also loved the scene at the club. He walks in, finds who he's looking for and the info he needs to make progress on his plans (getting the shares from the one Order member) but all the while, he does it fitting in like it's nothing. It's a gay club, he kisses the young Davenport on the lips during their introduction and gets behind the festivities going on. Just handles the whole thing with class/like a bad ass. He'll keep quiet if the shares are sold to him cause the info that whatshisname and Davenport's son are gay and in a relationship (when whatshisname is married as well) would be damaging for the families.
I have to say, I'm loving the show. The setting, the characters and the story are home runs for me so far. I also think one of the things I love about this and The Originals is you have these older Vampires in the lead role who are plotting for vengeance/something bigger and they're sure in their end goals and are ruthless if they have to be, while getting a more 'human' side to them. Klaus needed that with getting away from TVD but it's refreshing to have that *AND* Dracula in the same season.
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Dracula
Nov 8, 2013 19:03:19 GMT -5
Post by YouTubersGossip on Nov 8, 2013 19:03:19 GMT -5
Ive only watched half of the pilot and it was boring so i decided to watch it later. That was a week ago and i have yet to watch the rest of that episode, The series isn't looking to good for me.
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Dracula
Nov 9, 2013 5:16:43 GMT -5
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Post by Slash on Nov 9, 2013 5:16:43 GMT -5
Ive only watched half of the pilot and it was boring so i decided to watch it later. That was a week ago and i have yet to watch the rest of that episode, The series isn't looking to good for me. Series is actually great so far. They have to do the obvious establishment in the pilot which is slow in some areas but once past that, the show is great. Will do a recent episode impression later.
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Dracula
Nov 9, 2013 11:59:59 GMT -5
Post by Slash on Nov 9, 2013 11:59:59 GMT -5
Get this post out of the way:
So Harker and Mina are back together and getting married, in part due to Dracula giving Harker the push needed to go to Mina (and stop avoiding her) and clear the air. Dracula knows he wants her but he says he feels good anyways about keeping these 2 together. Renfield says it may be in part because he's doing exactly what he wants/needs in keeping her 'in his orbit' cause she'd be attached to Harker, who works for him. I'm liking Renfield on that note. The beginning scene where him and Harker are talking to the guy and the guy makes a comment about letting Renfield in, leading Harker to try and defend him only for Renfield to let the guy know that he's pretty much fired if he doesn't listen cause Grayson/Dracula is now majority owner and Renfield speaks with his authority. Put the guy in his place and I like that Renfield filled Harker on never presuming to defend him.
I see why Mina's friend is constantly taking shots at Harker: if the club/party scene and the following morning scene were anything to go by, she has her eye on Mina herself and Harker stands in the way of that. Maybe I'm reading the signs wrong though...maybe not. That'll be one hell of a confession though if she decides to air that.
So I got my answer to if Dracula knew about Lady Jayne being in the Order (and the preview shows that she finds out about him and it's a matter of him protecting his identity at this point). I imagine if she hadn't woken up, he may have killed her after finding the other Vampire locked away in her place, pleading to be killed. Easy come, easy go though as he's seen to her and the Order's seers being taken care of in good fashion. Van Helsing followed a messenger boy to them and bashed their heads in after they used some serum (?) he provided to increase their abilities since Dracula broke their mirror. Van Helsing laced it with a paralytic though and bashed their heads in to cover up any traces back to him (and can I say, the actors for the Seers just seem...horrible. Good and gone now though).
We got a peek into Dracula & Van Helsing's pasts. Van Helsing I'm guessing was actually part of the Order given what he said (his family was killed cause of his disobedience) and is now seeking vengeance and the Order is the reason Dracula is even a Vampire. They cursed him with being undead and I assume sealed him away afterwards (hence why Van Helsing probably knew where to find him). I'm wondering if his 'file' is just long forgotten to the current council in the Order or they just assume that anyone they seal up stays so.
Also, Lord Davenport is onto Grayson's involvement in his son's suicide through a chain of events. His son's lover was killed by the Order that night cause he sold his shares to Grayson and wouldn't come clean to the Order as to why (he was content with dying to protect his family name). Kind of want to see how Dracula plays off this particular event.
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Dracula
Nov 10, 2013 9:14:16 GMT -5
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Post by Slash on Nov 10, 2013 9:14:16 GMT -5
A bit I forgot: Dracula is 400 years old but has only been locked up for a century. So he had a good 300 after the Order turned him and before being imprisoned. I'm wondering if he gained the 'Impaler' moniker after they turned him.
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