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Post by jennifer on Dec 9, 2014 13:54:37 GMT -5
I am concerned a little about Stefan. I have noticed lately in some of the episodes that Enzo is always in Stefan's face about one thing or another. Enzo seems to think Stefan is keeping a lot of secrets. I think he is too. The question is what are they? We know he knows the location of Zack's daughter and has been watching over her all this time (my hero). What else is he hiding? Could it be about Elena?
Thoughts. Enzo acts like whatever Stefan is hiding, it's not all good stuff like watching over Sarah. It could be as simple as Sarah is the only secret, and her importance is Enzo finding out about her and baiting Stefan (again), telling Damon, etc. Enzo likes ruining young women's lives. Or we might find out more about Stefan. Whenever Damon is on good behavior, it's time for Stefan backstory, and not in a good way. First it was Stefan's grief, withdrawal and now the second half of the season looks to be about his secrets and "lies" since Enzo keeps making a point about those topics.
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Post by jennifer on Dec 9, 2014 14:17:17 GMT -5
I am concerned a little about Stefan. I have noticed lately in some of the episodes that Enzo is always in Stefan's face about one thing or another. Enzo seems to think Stefan is keeping a lot of secrets. I think he is too. The question is what are they? We know he knows the location of Zack's daughter and has been watching over her all this time (my hero). What else is he hiding? Could it be about Elena?
Thoughts. That is a very interesting theory, stelena4ever. Everyone thinks that, it makes no sense that Enzo hates Stefan so much. Stefan never really did anything to Enzo, Damon was the one who killed his girlfriend (and, don't ask me why or how but he forgave Damon imediately). So, Enzo was supposed to be Damon's best friend, right now, but they barely talk to each other. He's a Stefan hater instead. If you ask me, it's just bad writting and the writers creating an anti-hero (since Damon can't do it anymore because he's trying to get Elena back) to be opposite to Stefan's hero status... In s01 till 03, I would say that you're right and that the writers have a secret agenda. But now, I don't think so, I think it's just bad writting, really The slow burn of Enzo's hatred for Stefan is believable because Enzo is a crazy vamp deb. Stefan rejected him from the beginning, wouldn't shake his hand and play nice with the murder buddy. Stefan blamed Enzo for turning Damon back to his murdery self, and Enzo hated Stefan for being a good guy, "vanilla." They had several fights last year ending with Enzo's suicide twist. Things ramped up this season with Enzo turning Ivy & blaming Stefan for not finding Damon, and Stefan turning over Enzo to Tripp (even though he later saved him from the Tripp mobile). Plus the complicated relationships between the two of them with Damon & Caroline....! Using Enzo Logic, Stefan is dangerous because Enzo can't find the right buttons to push to bend Stefan to his will or get rid of him. Enzo realizing that Stefan's weakness is the secrets he keeps is finally a point of leverage.
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Post by Kiki on Dec 9, 2014 14:31:44 GMT -5
Damon loves Stefan more than Enzo, Caroline loves Stefan more than Enzo, Stefan tried to kill Enzo and handed him over to Trip... enough reason to be jealous and hate Stefan if you see it through the eyes of a crazy vamp
But if Enzo hates Stefan so much why did he save his life in the forest when Trip's guy tried to kill him with the wooden bullets (or was it an arrow?)
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Post by jennifer on Dec 9, 2014 15:07:06 GMT -5
Damon loves Stefan more than Enzo, Caroline loves Stefan more than Enzo, Stefan tried to kill Enzo and handed him over to Trip... enough reason to be jealous and hate Stefan if you see it through the eyes of a crazy vamp But if Enzo hates Stefan so much why did he save his life in the forest when Trip's guy tried to kill him with the wooden bullets (or was it an arrow?) Momentary lapse of reason?? Whatever altruistic or instinctual impulse caused Enzo to save Stefan, it seems gone now.
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Post by stelena4ever on Dec 9, 2014 19:11:03 GMT -5
I am concerned a little about Stefan. I have noticed lately in some of the episodes that Enzo is always in Stefan's face about one thing or another. Enzo seems to think Stefan is keeping a lot of secrets. I think he is too. The question is what are they? We know he knows the location of Zack's daughter and has been watching over her all this time (my hero). What else is he hiding? Could it be about Elena?
Thoughts. That is a very interesting theory, stelena4ever. Everyone thinks that, it makes no sense that Enzo hates Stefan so much. Stefan never really did anything to Enzo, Damon was the one who killed his girlfriend (and, don't ask me why or how but he forgave Damon imediately). So, Enzo was supposed to be Damon's best friend, right now, but they barely talk to each other. He's a Stefan hater instead. If you ask me, it's just bad writting and the writers creating an anti-hero (since Damon can't do it anymore because he's trying to get Elena back) to be opposite to Stefan's hero status... In s01 till 03, I would say that you're right and that the writers have a secret agenda. But now, I don't think so, I think it's just bad writting, really You are probably right deb it just might be bad writing. But I am hoping it is the latter, that Stefan will finally have a juicy storyline in the second half of the season.
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Post by deb on Dec 12, 2014 19:11:49 GMT -5
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Post by Kiki on Dec 15, 2014 14:46:26 GMT -5
just found this online and there was only one herohair that I could think of hahaha
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Post by Kiki on Jan 5, 2015 9:50:17 GMT -5
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Post by demetra on Jan 5, 2015 12:35:17 GMT -5
Now it is 41. I could only vote once.
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Post by stelena4ever on Jan 5, 2015 19:29:49 GMT -5
I got 66 votes. I voted a couple of times. I don't know if the second one took. The total did not go up.
We have hardly seen Stefan this season. It is no wonder he does not have that many votes from anyone other then us.
Sad, very sad.
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Post by deb on Jan 6, 2015 16:33:01 GMT -5
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Post by demetra on Jan 8, 2015 23:15:42 GMT -5
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Post by deb on Jan 14, 2015 17:52:37 GMT -5
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Post by xkirox on Jan 17, 2015 23:12:03 GMT -5
Stefan is perfect! I would choose him over Damon any day! Yay for Stelena!
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Post by deb on Jan 24, 2015 6:16:23 GMT -5
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