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Post by napoli on Apr 15, 2015 11:10:45 GMT -5
I think they are flashbacks and I think the purpose of them is to bring a final closure to SE solidifying them as a past love. Well at least they are trying to give us closure lol. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I527 using proboards I can't take any consolation in that. The heroine of the story has been left accepting the dark side of herself with no struggle to become good and no guilt in staying bad. This isn't the kinds of story I enjoy. Even if by some miracle they manage to suggest otherwise there is such little time left that the journey, BIG IF there is even one!, will be done too quickly to be believable. The writers wasted all of s4 on the sire bond only to relegate it to non-history (she changed because of solely vampirism remember) and the writers have admitted they fumbled with Enzo's story line in s6 so it doesn't instill confidence that they can take the second best character of the show (Stefan will always be number 1) and give her a proper ending.
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Post by crimmyj on Apr 15, 2015 11:38:08 GMT -5
Well at least they are trying to give us closure lol. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I527 using proboards I can't take any consolation in that. The heroine of the story has been left accepting the dark side of herself with no struggle to become good and no guilt in staying bad. This isn't the kinds of story I enjoy. Even if by some miracle they manage to suggest otherwise there is such little time left that the journey, BIG IF there is even one!, will be done too quickly to be believable.The writers wasted all of s4 on the sire bond only to relegate it to non-history (she changed because of solely vampirism remember) and the writers have admitted they fumbled with Enzo's story line in s6 so it doesn't instill confidence that they can take the second best character of the show (Stefan will always be number 1) and give her a proper ending. This. all day. What really annoys me is they fact that they have all stated that they have known this was Nina's last season for awhile and they have done NOTHING with Elena's character this season knowing it was her last. Her only real storyline was the memory compelling and that amounted to nothing, and the rest of the time she has just been decoration. 5 episodes can't suddenly fix what hasn't even been set up in the 17 episodes that came before and the writers chose to do nothing with her. Please someone explain to me how this season is better than s5 for that reason alone. Elena's last season and this is what we have so far?
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Post by napoli on Apr 15, 2015 12:46:13 GMT -5
I can't take any consolation in that. The heroine of the story has been left accepting the dark side of herself with no struggle to become good and no guilt in staying bad. This isn't the kinds of story I enjoy. Even if by some miracle they manage to suggest otherwise there is such little time left that the journey, BIG IF there is even one!, will be done too quickly to be believable.The writers wasted all of s4 on the sire bond only to relegate it to non-history (she changed because of solely vampirism remember) and the writers have admitted they fumbled with Enzo's story line in s6 so it doesn't instill confidence that they can take the second best character of the show (Stefan will always be number 1) and give her a proper ending. This. all day. What really annoys me is they fact that they have all stated that they have known this was Nina's last season for awhile and they have done NOTHING with Elena's character this season knowing it was her last. Her only real storyline was the memory compelling and that amounted to nothing, and the rest of the time she has just been decoration. 5 episodes can't suddenly fix what hasn't even been set up in the 17 episodes that came before and the writers chose to do nothing with her. Please someone explain to me how this season is better than s5 for that reason alone. Elena's last season and this is what we have so far? I'm shocked and appalled that any writer would want to leave Elena Gilbert who was once a formidable character (Your compassion is a gift, Elena. Elijah's letter to Elena 3x15) in such a clear state of darkness. The writers made it clear it was vampirism that changed her (erasing the affect of the sire bond) and memory-less Elena loving Damon all over again proves that it was vampirism. Even the way they let Jeremy leave with a whimper was surprising. I figured that he would still need to sort of be around because of Elena but now knowing that Elena is leaving too and they couldn't even give Jeremy a proper send off either. Think of when Alaric was killed or when Jeremy was even killed by Silas. These were far superior story lines then sending Jeremy off to art school, wink-wink, but he's really a going to be a vampire hunter who can't even get Enzo's boot off his own neck. This season is by far much worse than s5 because of all the lost opportunities - Enzo (JP already admitted on twitter they screwed up), Jeremy and now Elena. Not that I'm overly thrilled at what they've done with the other characters this season especially with Caroline but not doing anything with Elena is by far the biggest disappointment to date with TVD. The worst part is there is likely more disappointment to come.
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Post by katvolley13 on Apr 15, 2015 13:01:42 GMT -5
This. all day. What really annoys me is they fact that they have all stated that they have known this was Nina's last season for awhile and they have done NOTHING with Elena's character this season knowing it was her last. Her only real storyline was the memory compelling and that amounted to nothing, and the rest of the time she has just been decoration. 5 episodes can't suddenly fix what hasn't even been set up in the 17 episodes that came before and the writers chose to do nothing with her. Please someone explain to me how this season is better than s5 for that reason alone. Elena's last season and this is what we have so far? I'm shocked and appalled that any writer would want to leave Elena Gilbert who was once a formidable character (Your compassion is a gift, Elena. Elijah's letter to Elena 3x15) in such a clear state of darkness. The writers made it clear it was vampirism that changed her (erasing the affect of the sire bond) and memory-less Elena loving Damon all over again proves that it was vampirism. Even the way they let Jeremy leave with a whimper was surprising. I figured that he would still need to sort of be around because of Elena but now knowing that Elena is leaving too and they couldn't even give Jeremy a proper send off either. Think of when Alaric was killed or when Jeremy was even killed by Silas. These were far superior story lines then sending Jeremy off to art school, wink-wink, but he's really a going to be a vampire hunter who can't even get Enzo's boot off his own neck. This season is by far much worse than s5 because of all the lost opportunities - Enzo (JP already admitted on twitter they screwed up), Jeremy and now Elena. Not that I'm overly thrilled at what they've done with the other characters this season especially with Caroline but not doing anything with Elena is by far the biggest disappointment to date with TVD. The worst part is there is likely more disappointment to come. I completely agree they have wasted so much time. The minute they found out they should have stopped the de nonsense and moved her character back towards the heroine she once was. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I527 using proboards
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Post by deb on Apr 15, 2015 16:21:31 GMT -5
Is this the bridge, where Elena died? Seriously, again?
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Post by crimmyj on Apr 15, 2015 16:43:22 GMT -5
This. all day. What really annoys me is they fact that they have all stated that they have known this was Nina's last season for awhile and they have done NOTHING with Elena's character this season knowing it was her last. Her only real storyline was the memory compelling and that amounted to nothing, and the rest of the time she has just been decoration. 5 episodes can't suddenly fix what hasn't even been set up in the 17 episodes that came before and the writers chose to do nothing with her. Please someone explain to me how this season is better than s5 for that reason alone. Elena's last season and this is what we have so far? I'm shocked and appalled that any writer would want to leave Elena Gilbert who was once a formidable character (Your compassion is a gift, Elena. Elijah's letter to Elena 3x15) in such a clear state of darkness. The writers made it clear it was vampirism that changed her (erasing the affect of the sire bond) and memory-less Elena loving Damon all over again proves that it was vampirism. Even the way they let Jeremy leave with a whimper was surprising. I figured that he would still need to sort of be around because of Elena but now knowing that Elena is leaving too and they couldn't even give Jeremy a proper send off either. Think of when Alaric was killed or when Jeremy was even killed by Silas. These were far superior story lines then sending Jeremy off to art school, wink-wink, but he's really a going to be a vampire hunter who can't even get Enzo's boot off his own neck. This season is by far much worse than s5 because of all the lost opportunities - Enzo (JP already admitted on twitter they screwed up), Jeremy and now Elena. Not that I'm overly thrilled at what they've done with the other characters this season especially with Caroline but not doing anything with Elena is by far the biggest disappointment to date with TVD. The worst part is there is likely more disappointment to come. I'm right there with you napoli and I don't see with the amount of episodes left that they can answer all the questions they have for this season AND also give Elena's character a proper arc when everything leading up to these last 5 episodes have provided us with nothing for her character. But hey at least she put on a nice coat for when she met mama Salvatore the first time.
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Post by crimmyj on Apr 15, 2015 16:45:47 GMT -5
Is this the bridge, where Elena died? Seriously, again? first off... deb always nailing the proper reaction gif. bless you. And what the hell...can we not with the bridge again. There are too many bad storylines they can go to with that.
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Post by demetra on Apr 15, 2015 18:43:53 GMT -5
It is not the outfit Elena was wearing when she went off the bridge the first time.
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Post by katvolley13 on Apr 15, 2015 18:48:33 GMT -5
Is this the bridge, where Elena died? Seriously, again? first off... deb always nailing the proper reaction gif. bless you. And what the hell...can we not with the bridge again. There are too many bad storylines they can go to with that. Yes the last scene is on the bridge not sure what that means. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I527 using proboards
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Post by jennifer on Apr 15, 2015 20:25:08 GMT -5
It looks like the send-off Matt gave 'old' Elena in 3x11, with the flowers. Maybe the end loops back to that scene. Or it could be a sentimental send-off for Nina and not part of the episode.
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Post by deb on Apr 16, 2015 4:58:17 GMT -5
It looks like the send-off Matt gave 'old' Elena in 3x11, with the flowers. Maybe the end loops back to that scene. Or it could be a sentimental send-off for Nina and not part of the episode. Very well observed, jennifer. It could be, here's the scene:
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Post by katvolley13 on Apr 16, 2015 6:08:45 GMT -5
It looks like the send-off Matt gave 'old' Elena in 3x11, with the flowers. Maybe the end loops back to that scene. Or it could be a sentimental send-off for Nina and not part of the episode. Very well observed, jennifer. It could be, here's the scene: It's the same flowers! Omg what does it mean Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I527 using proboards
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Post by deb on Apr 16, 2015 7:11:15 GMT -5
http://instagram.com/p/1g_EJrvbaj That a series wrap for Elena & Tyler!!! It's been an incredible 6 years you guys. Thanks for sticking with us. We love you all! #TVD
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Post by demetra on Apr 16, 2015 7:41:18 GMT -5
It looks like the send-off Matt gave 'old' Elena in 3x11, with the flowers. Maybe the end loops back to that scene. Or it could be a sentimental send-off for Nina and not part of the episode. Not the same outfit for that scene? Elena has worn that before. I just don't know what scene....oh. I thought it was the outfit from 3x12, when she tells Stefan she kissed Damon. But it is not the same top.
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Post by jennifer on Apr 16, 2015 8:07:34 GMT -5
It looks like the send-off Matt gave 'old' Elena in 3x11, with the flowers. Maybe the end loops back to that scene. Or it could be a sentimental send-off for Nina and not part of the episode. Not the same outfit for that scene? Elena has worn that before. I just don't know what scene....oh. I thought it was the outfit from 3x12, when she tells Stefan she kissed Damon. But it is not the same top. I was thinking of a figurative loop, like Elena goes back to the bridge to say goodbye to her life as a vampire. It seems too much for them to show in photos (whatever the event), so that's why I was thinking maybe Nina was filming something else in that outfit and they went to the bridge for her to say goodbye to TVD. Really curious when Elena wore that outfit! Can't remember the black/white tank(s).
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