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Post by demetra on Mar 21, 2015 11:37:05 GMT -5
To split hairs, it is a Cure for immortality, not vampirism. Vampirism is a condition of immortality. Secondly, Sheila Bennett was a teenager in the 50s, according to her meeting with Stefan back in Season One, so the 1903 prison world is accessed with the blood of a Bennett witch, but it would likely have been that of another relative common to both Sheila and Bonnie that helped in the making of it. Oh, yes, I know the Cure is for immortality, I said vampirism because the vampires are cured from it, since they're not all immortal-like Silas was, or Amara. And I wrongly expressed myself when I said that the Prison World from 1903 was created using Sheila's Bennett blood. What I wanted to say was the one from 1994 was created using her blood and also linked with a spell only a Bennett witch could perform. However, it's still confusing how the first Prison World was created, because Sheila didn't even exist in 1903, and Emily would have been like. . . 103 years old back then. But as witches are known for tricking the aging process by using herbs or anti-aging spells or whatsoever, that could actually make sense, but since this is TVD nothing can possibly make any sense. Plus, I don't know If you guys have noticed but, from season one of the series to six, some things were altered. Yes, I think we're with you there. We've noticed. There is a line of succession for Bennett witches, though, and there were other Bennetts between Emily and Sheila. Do you remember back in Season Three? I think when Stefan stole the Original coffins and had them hidden in the mansion with Bonnie's assistance. When Klaus showed up, the spirits of all the witches who had died on that spot started paining him. But he threatened the lives of all their descendants -- so they desisted and showed him the coffins.
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Post by demetra on Mar 21, 2015 11:38:21 GMT -5
Emily was somewhere around 30 in 1864 that would make her something around 70 in 1903 not 103 However she was already dead. She was burned by the Mystic Falls gang in 1864.
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Post by withered on Mar 21, 2015 12:10:46 GMT -5
Emily was somewhere around 30 in 1864 that would make her something around 70 in 1903 not 103 According to The Vampire Diaries Wiki, Emily was born in 1800, which means in 1864 she was 64 years old, in chronological terms. But in the flashbacks she looked pretty young in that time. So I am guessing she was using herbs to maintain her young appearance. Or possibly a spell for delaying the aging process. Just as Esther remained the same since she was killed back in the 10th century. It's pretty confusing. But witches are awesome. I give them credit for that.
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Post by withered on Mar 21, 2015 12:13:04 GMT -5
Oh, yes, I know the Cure is for immortality, I said vampirism because the vampires are cured from it, since they're not all immortal-like Silas was, or Amara. And I wrongly expressed myself when I said that the Prison World from 1903 was created using Sheila's Bennett blood. What I wanted to say was the one from 1994 was created using her blood and also linked with a spell only a Bennett witch could perform. However, it's still confusing how the first Prison World was created, because Sheila didn't even exist in 1903, and Emily would have been like. . . 103 years old back then. But as witches are known for tricking the aging process by using herbs or anti-aging spells or whatsoever, that could actually make sense, but since this is TVD nothing can possibly make any sense. Plus, I don't know If you guys have noticed but, from season one of the series to six, some things were altered. Yes, I think we're with you there. We've noticed. There is a line of succession for Bennett witches, though, and there were other Bennetts between Emily and Sheila. Do you remember back in Season Three? I think when Stefan stole the Original coffins and had them hidden in the mansion with Bonnie's assistance. When Klaus showed up, the spirits of all the witches who had died on that spot started paining him. But he threatened the lives of all their descendants -- so they desisted and showed him the coffins. OH YES! Also, Emily had children of her own, so that would be an explanation.
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Post by bonbon on Mar 21, 2015 16:07:22 GMT -5
What I don't understand is how Bonnie got the cure. When they went for the original cure, the box was fossilized in silas' hand, and it took jeremy's blood to loosen the box. Does Qetsiyah's blood make Bonnie's magic stronger than ever? Or do rules change in the prison world?
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Post by withered on Mar 21, 2015 16:23:24 GMT -5
What I don't understand is how Bonnie got the cure. When they went for the original cure, the box was fossilized in silas' hand, and it took jeremy's blood to loosen the box. Does Qetsiyah's blood make Bonnie's magic stronger than ever? Or do rules change in the prison world? In Kai's Prison, from 1994, there was no one else. As from what we've gathered so far. So that means, Silas wasn't either. Only the Cure, which is an object, and as for every object that has existed back in that time, still exists in this dimension that's like a copy of it. Or at least, that's the only logical explanation .
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Post by bonbon on Mar 21, 2015 16:29:35 GMT -5
What I don't understand is how Bonnie got the cure. When they went for the original cure, the box was fossilized in silas' hand, and it took jeremy's blood to loosen the box. Does Qetsiyah's blood make Bonnie's magic stronger than ever? Or do rules change in the prison world? In Kai's Prison, from 1994, there was no one else. As from what we've gathered so far. So that means, Silas wasn't either. Only the Cure, which is an object, and as for every object that has existed back in that time, still exists in this dimension that's like a copy of it. Or at least, that's the only logical explanation . Hmm OK that makes more sense, but then why would the cure and headstone be there if there is no silas? Same events, physical objects, but no actual body?
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Post by withered on Mar 21, 2015 17:06:10 GMT -5
In Kai's Prison, from 1994, there was no one else. As from what we've gathered so far. So that means, Silas wasn't either. Only the Cure, which is an object, and as for every object that has existed back in that time, still exists in this dimension that's like a copy of it. Or at least, that's the only logical explanation . Hmm OK that makes more sense, but then why would the cure and headstone be there if there is no silas? Same events, physical objects, but no actual body? Because the Cure and the headstone are objects, or copy of them. . . and now it struck me! What IF all the objects considered magical , in the prison world have no effect in the present day? Like the Cure being a copy. . . or it will have since it's like alternate dimensions? But with no people in them. Hm.
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Post by demetra on Mar 21, 2015 18:36:56 GMT -5
Hmm OK that makes more sense, but then why would the cure and headstone be there if there is no silas? Same events, physical objects, but no actual body? Because the Cure and the headstone are objects, or copy of them. . . and now it struck me! What IF all the objects considered magical , in the prison world have no effect in the present day? Like the Cure being a copy. . . or it will have since it's like alternate dimensions? But with no people in them. Hm. Never say never but the complication there could be that Bonnie got her magic back, so she said, from the headstone, and we have seen her using her magic the past two weeks in the real world since she has been back. UNLESS BONNIE IS ACTUALLY SILAS. However, we are in the wrong thread for this kind of crazypants speculation, I think we should be in Season Six Theories.
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Post by withered on Mar 21, 2015 18:39:18 GMT -5
Because the Cure and the headstone are objects, or copy of them. . . and now it struck me! What IF all the objects considered magical , in the prison world have no effect in the present day? Like the Cure being a copy. . . or it will have since it's like alternate dimensions? But with no people in them. Hm. Never say never but the complication there could be that Bonnie got her magic back, so she said, from the headstone, and we have seen her using her magic the past two weeks in the real world since she has been back. UNLESS BONNIE IS ACTUALLY SILAS. However, we are in the wrong thread for this kind of crazypants speculation, I think we should be in Season Six Theories. INDEED. That would be one hell of a theory!
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Post by demetra on Mar 21, 2015 18:46:43 GMT -5
What I don't understand is how Bonnie got the cure. When they went for the original cure, the box was fossilized in silas' hand, and it took jeremy's blood to loosen the box. Does Qetsiyah's blood make Bonnie's magic stronger than ever? Or do rules change in the prison world? Welcome! We kicked that around a couple of weeks ago and could come up with nothing viable. It is a good question. My thought is that they just held their noses and pretended it was not an issue.
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Post by katvolley13 on Mar 21, 2015 19:10:57 GMT -5
Oh I love that lol bonnie being silas all the other storylines have been recycled
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Post by withered on Mar 21, 2015 19:20:23 GMT -5
Oh I love that lol bonnie being silas all the other storylines have been recycled Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I527 using proboards Yes, it would be insanely brilliant. Tho, I'd feel very bad for Bonnie is she's to be dead somewhere in the 1994 Prison World. However, sadly this theory doesn't really add up since there are no other persons there. = /
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Post by demetra on Mar 21, 2015 20:06:19 GMT -5
Oh I love that lol bonnie being silas all the other storylines have been recycled Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I527 using proboards Yes, it would be insanely brilliant. Tho, I'd feel very bad for Bonnie is she's to be dead somewhere in the 1994 Prison World. However, sadly this theory doesn't really add up since there are no other persons there. = / Technically, Silas is a rock. Also, come to think of it so is Amara. ;)
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Post by bonbon on Mar 21, 2015 20:11:56 GMT -5
What I don't understand is how Bonnie got the cure. When they went for the original cure, the box was fossilized in silas' hand, and it took jeremy's blood to loosen the box. Does Qetsiyah's blood make Bonnie's magic stronger than ever? Or do rules change in the prison world? Welcome! We kicked that around a couple of weeks ago and could come up with nothing viable. It is a good question. My thought is that they just held their noses and pretended it was not an issue. I love reading the fan fiction too and a few stories involved her getting the cure and I kept shaking my head saying "that's not possible", but apparently it is. I hope the next episode will explain it more, but I have a feeling the writers will gloss over that SL... You guys are right when you say they drop the ball on a lot of topics they bring up but never really explain
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