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Post by wednesday on May 26, 2013 22:35:30 GMT -5
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Post by wednesday on May 26, 2013 22:44:22 GMT -5
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Post by wednesday on May 26, 2013 23:04:00 GMT -5
When I saw this scene I jumped on board with them! Instant chemistry. A different side of Stefan we never get to see.
Another one of my favorite scenes of theirs
What really sold me on her feelings for Stefan despite what the writers have now tried to sell us is this scene. This is one of the reasons I can't buy the whole Elijah thing as much as I love him. They had one flashback scene & then him threatening her to stay in the tomb. And then all of a sudden they show up together now. Did I miss something? There was no build up like there was for Stefan. Even with Damon, she never showed actual love for him. All she ever seemed to want from Damon was just a one night stand & she wanted to make sure he knew that Stefan was always her first choice because she told him that on more than one occasion. Plus she kept tabs on Stefan over the years because that was actually shown & talked about .
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Post by wednesday on May 26, 2013 23:28:07 GMT -5
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Post by katvolley13 on May 27, 2013 6:51:26 GMT -5
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I loved all of these videos and the signatures. I have never really shipped them before because I wanted the best for Stephen but elena uggh and while Katherine is a bad girl Stephen keeps her in line and knows all her tricks. It could work.
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Post by teppy1 on May 27, 2013 9:05:09 GMT -5
I am very interested to see Katherine not as a vampire. I do not think Katherine turned off her emotions really --she made reference to not doing that and letting it all in so maybe she won't be as different as you would imagine, but I worry she will just chose to be a vampire again. Stefan I think saw her for who she was---human her and Damon saw her for what she is (vamp her) so I could see Stefan liking this Katherine and I could see why Katherine loved them both because of that and I can see actua;;y now that I think about why they MIIIIIGHT be going that route with elena but I think in the end -- you want to be seen as who you were because the person that sees the vampire for you they were bring out that side of them and makes them feel that part of them again... makes them feel alive. ---verses feeling dead.
... and now that Katherne is human maybe stefan could be reminded of that person he fell in love with....I could see them being a good team- hopefully she is the one to save him.
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Post by katvolley13 on May 27, 2013 12:37:25 GMT -5
Someone has got to be. Elena does not seem to give a crap.
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Post by deb on May 27, 2013 17:14:36 GMT -5
When I saw this scene I jumped on board with them! Instant chemistry. A different side of Stefan we never get to see. Another one of my favorite scenes of theirs What really sold me on her feelings for Stefan despite what the writers have now tried to sell us is this scene. This is one of the reasons I can't buy the whole Elijah thing as much as I love him. They had one flashback scene & then him threatening her to stay in the tomb. And then all of a sudden they show up together now. Did I miss something? There was no build up like there was for Stefan. Even with Damon, she never showed actual love for him. All she ever seemed to want from Damon was just a one night stand & she wanted to make sure he knew that Stefan was always her first choice because she told him that on more than one occasion. Plus she kept tabs on Stefan over the years because that was actually shown & talked about . Wow, Wednesday, how did you do that? I'm almost caring again and I'm almost shipping Steferine. It's probably the Paul/Nina chemistry and since I can't ship SE anymore, SK is just fine...
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Post by wednesday on May 27, 2013 18:16:50 GMT -5
Oh it definitely has to do with Paul/Nina's chemistry! It's so funny because Ian & Nina were the ones dating in real life yet I didn't see the chemistry onscreen, but Paul has it off the charts with both characters in different ways! Both girls bring out different sides of Stefan. When I saw him with Katherine in The Return he was all flirty & acted amused by her which is something we hadn't really seen with Elena. Kat brings out his smartass & sarcastic side which I really enjoy, yet she also brought out the vulnerable side of Stefan too. I loved the look on his face when she made him realize that he really had been in love with her & she hadn't compelled him & also when she asked him about her picture. To this day I'm still waiting for Stefan to give us an answer about why he never destroyed it! Damon never kept one, I wonder why? He was the one who was suppose to be obsessed with her right?
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Post by deb on May 28, 2013 17:06:20 GMT -5
Oh it definitely has to do with Paul/Nina's chemistry! It's so funny because Ian & Nina were the ones dating in real life yet I didn't see the chemistry onscreen, but Paul has it off the charts with both characters in different ways! Both girls bring out different sides of Stefan. When I saw him with Katherine in The Return he was all flirty & acted amused by her which is something we hadn't really seen with Elena. Kat brings out his smartass & sarcastic side which I really enjoy, yet she also brought out the vulnerable side of Stefan too. I loved the look on his face when she made him realize that he really had been in love with her & she hadn't compelled him & also when she asked him about her picture. To this day I'm still waiting for Stefan to give us an answer about why he never destroyed it! Damon never kept one, I wonder why? He was the one who was suppose to be obsessed with her right? I couldn't agree more... There's natural chemistry between Paul and Nina (even when they aren't acting, there is chemistry there, at the way they look at each other) and, IMO, Paul is a better actor than Ian, that's why SE scenes are more natural and believable than DE. I've always liked Steferine. I think it's fascinating that Kat, a 500 year old vampire who cares about no one, falls in love with Stefan, she goes after him for more than 100 years and even when he was with Klaus (a person she wants to be so far away from), she was still in Chicago, looking out for him and saving him from some vodoo witches. And he gave her no reasons to have hope that he would love her back but she still cared about him. That's why I didn't buy the Katelijah thing... My problem with Steferine is that she was with Stefan and Damon at the same time and, well, I shipped SE because I thought Elena was better than Kat This show would be so much better if it was about 2 doppelgangers (Elena and Kat) fighting for the love of another doppelganger (Stefan). At least, Stefan would do to Elena what she did to him... Even when Kat was back, Stefan was always sure about his love for Elena
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Post by katvolley13 on May 28, 2013 20:28:18 GMT -5
Yes omg someone give this idea to Julie plec immediately. This solves alot of problems.
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Post by wednesday on May 28, 2013 21:24:34 GMT -5
Oh it definitely has to do with Paul/Nina's chemistry! It's so funny because Ian & Nina were the ones dating in real life yet I didn't see the chemistry onscreen, but Paul has it off the charts with both characters in different ways! Both girls bring out different sides of Stefan. When I saw him with Katherine in The Return he was all flirty & acted amused by her which is something we hadn't really seen with Elena. Kat brings out his smartass & sarcastic side which I really enjoy, yet she also brought out the vulnerable side of Stefan too. I loved the look on his face when she made him realize that he really had been in love with her & she hadn't compelled him & also when she asked him about her picture. To this day I'm still waiting for Stefan to give us an answer about why he never destroyed it! Damon never kept one, I wonder why? He was the one who was suppose to be obsessed with her right? I couldn't agree more... There's natural chemistry between Paul and Nina (even when they aren't acting, there is chemistry there, at the way they look at each other) and, IMO, Paul is a better actor than Ian, that's why SE scenes are more natural and believable than DE. I've always liked Steferine. I think it's fascinating that Kat, a 500 year old vampire who cares about no one, falls in love with Stefan, she goes after him for more than 100 years and even when he was with Klaus (a person she wants to be so far away from), she was still in Chicago, looking out for him and saving him from some vodoo witches. And he gave her no reasons to have hope that he would love her back but she still cared about him. That's why I didn't buy the Katelijah thing... My problem with Steferine is that she was with Stefan and Damon at the same time and, well, I shipped SE because I thought Elena was better than Kat This show would be so much better if it was about 2 doppelgangers (Elena and Kat) fighting for the love of another doppelganger (Stefan). At least, Stefan would do to Elena what she did to him... Even when Kat was back, Stefan was always sure about his love for Elena Again, Deb I pretty much agree with everything you said! lol! Yeah Kat was with Stefan & Damon at the same time which I really hated so I can understand everyone's problem with that, but in retrospect Elena's not really that different when you think about it. No Elena didn't cheat on Stefan physically, but she did emotionally. Plus she did lead Damon on. She knew Damon was in love with her. He didn't have to come out & tell her. The threats & physically confrontations were pretty clear that he had feelings for her. She'd have to be pretty stupid not to notice. It certainly wasn't brotherly love! The fact that he told her he couldn't lose her & that he would gladly let her best friend die & he would always choose her weren't exactly subtle hints! She manipulated him just like Katherine did & Damon called her on it a couple of times so Elena's no saint either. I would love to see Stefan's feelings come back for Katherine & him give her a chance & let Elena see how it feels to have HIM be conflicted over someone else other than her! How do you like them apples Elena!
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Post by deb on May 29, 2013 17:12:14 GMT -5
Well, JP said that she changed the finale because people started guessing that Damon was the one who would take the cure and she wanted to surprise the audience. Well, JP, we're all here guessing that in season 5 finale Elena will again have to choose between Stefan and Damon (Like she always does, anyway!!!!) so, surprise us, change it and make it about Stefan choosing between Elena and Kat and, chocking!!!, make him choose human Katherine for a while!
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Post by wednesday on May 29, 2013 17:37:50 GMT -5
I LOVED that scene & was so disappointed it wasn't reality! That was a hot scene! I know I'm shameful! Now I really wish it would've happened. I love your idea about letting Stefan make a choice where he doesn't pick Elena just to be different. I mean we've had the who will she pick now for 4 seasons & it's really made her look bad especially this season. They are going to have to do some major reconstruction on her character. Her still being sired is the only thing that will make any sense to me!
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Post by deb on May 31, 2013 5:18:56 GMT -5
I remember when I watched the promo for the episode, I was really disappointed with Stefan because I thought he was cheating on Elena. I remember I said to Tara, back then, "How could he, I was thinking that Elena was the one who would cheat on him and he does this!? Ugh!". Well, of course, my sweet Stefy wouldn't do that to her, it was just a dream. Now, I just wish he had because Elena didn't deserve his respect
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