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Post by Ruby on Mar 12, 2015 20:02:15 GMT -5
THIS IS A DEBATES AREA THREAD PLEASE READ BELOW lets come together to share our thoughts about tonight's episode! =) All TVD Fans Welcomed including Exclusive Ship fans lol Lets discuss:
What did you Like? What you did not like? What was your favorite scene/quote? What scene was the most shocking to you or caught you off guard?
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Post by Ruby on Mar 12, 2015 20:04:08 GMT -5
Woah another awesome episode!!!!!
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Post by jennifer on Mar 12, 2015 21:40:02 GMT -5
Candice Accola. She blew me away tonight. So it's Bonnie & Clyde next week?? Can't decide if this ep. was oddly great or just odd. Ian definitely had a vision, and the scenes with Caroline backlit sitting on the bar, and Stefan and Caroline at the end, were very Moulin Rouge. 'Remember to bring me back' or whatever Stefan said to Elena -- I liked that part. Oh, and Bonnie torturing Damon was great on both sides. The women had powerful scenes tonight. I didn't think they'd go for the humanity switch with Stefan, yet the way everything went down with Sarah screaming over the phone, the pain on Stefan's face, Caroline's cold calculation...it didn't feel formulaic when it finally happened. I don't know how to rate this one. Ian kept everything moving at a fast pace and my head's still spinning!
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Post by crimmyj on Mar 13, 2015 0:00:39 GMT -5
Sorry I am still major annoyed that Stefan is being blamed for Caroline turning her humanity off. I hate that is how the writers are taking that. A tantrum because the guy she liked didn't declare his love at her mother's funeral...in front of her open casket. Turning off her humanity because of grief, fine, its been done, but I get that. Turning it off because of the rejection? Grow the eff up. Stop destroying strong female characters and making them love stricken idiots. Bonnie, you are now my only hope.
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Post by crimmyj on Mar 13, 2015 0:57:31 GMT -5
I think we can all agree that this was the best moment of the night, no?
"I compelled a student to perform surgery on Stefan's niece and you found a way to make this about you? God you truly have a gift Elena."
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Post by amimi on Mar 13, 2015 1:27:05 GMT -5
This episode was lots of fun. Will write more later, but for now a quick question: how did Stefan and Damon get their humanity turned back "on" in the past (that we've seen)? I'm not remembering that it was single incidences, but just that they chose to? Didn't Stefan just gradually come back to his emotions in S3? If that's the case, why does Stefan need anyone else to bring him back now?
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Post by katvolley13 on Mar 13, 2015 6:48:29 GMT -5
This episode was lots of fun. Will write more later, but for now a quick question: how did Stefan and Damon get their humanity turned back "on" in the past (that we've seen)? I'm not remembering that it was single incidences, but just that they chose to? Didn't Stefan just gradually come back to his emotions in S3? If that's the case, why does Stefan need anyone else to bring him back now? Elena brought him back that is why. In the past I think stefen had lexis help. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I527 using proboards
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Post by deb on Mar 13, 2015 10:18:55 GMT -5
Ratings so far:
6x16 * 1.33 - lowest rated episode of TVD so far.
6x15 * 1.41
6x14 * 1.52
6x13 * 1.61
6x12 * 1.47
6x11 * 1.63
6x10 * 1.82
6x09 * 1.49
6x08 * 1.68
6x07 * 1.54
6x06 * 1.59
6x05 * 1.58
6x04 * 1.66
6X03 * 1.83
6x02 * 1.67
6x01 * 1.81
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Post by Kiki on Mar 13, 2015 11:14:18 GMT -5
This episode was lots of fun. Will write more later, but for now a quick question: how did Stefan and Damon get their humanity turned back "on" in the past (that we've seen)? I'm not remembering that it was single incidences, but just that they chose to? Didn't Stefan just gradually come back to his emotions in S3? If that's the case, why does Stefan need anyone else to bring him back now? I think the moment Stefan came back last time was when Elena told him she kissed Damon
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 12:13:27 GMT -5
OMFG!!! I nearly passed out this episode...I just watched it! More later..is the Rippppppppppaaaahhhh really back I gotta tell Klaus in New Orleans lol This was the best episode so far!!! And I love this season, it is awesome!!! Gotta digest and watch again or vice versa!!! Cheers!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 12:14:53 GMT -5
Ratings so far: 6x16 * 1.33 - lowest rated episode of TVD so far. 6x15 * 1.41 6x14 * 1.52 6x13 * 1.61 6x12 * 1.47 6x11 * 1.63 6x10 * 1.82 6x09 * 1.49 6x08 * 1.68 6x07 * 1.54 6x06 * 1.59 6x05 * 1.58 6x04 * 1.66 6X03 * 1.83 6x02 * 1.67 6x01 * 1.81 sad, because this season is awesome and well, what can I say...it is their loss ... I mean them that aren't watching
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Post by deb on Mar 13, 2015 12:46:44 GMT -5
I decided to watch this episode and I found it good, actually.
Probably the best TVD episode in a very long time... Like, best episode in s05 and 06 together.
And I think Ian did a very nice job at his directorial debut.
Candice is becoming a very good actress and I'm excited to watch Stefan next storyline.
It was a good surprise, TVD. I wasn't expecting it from you anymore...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 12:53:34 GMT -5
I decided to watch this episode and I found it good, actually. Probably the best TVD episode in a very long time... Like, best episode in s05 and 06 together. And I think Ian did a very nice job at his directorial debut. Candice is becoming a very good actress and I'm excited to watch Stefan next storyline. It was a good surprise, TVD. I wasn't expecting it from you anymore... I might be in the minority, but I would really love to see Steffie phase out for a while again as the Ripppaaahhh!!!!! Caro and Stef with offturned humanities, those are real partners in crime...or are they
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Post by katvolley13 on Mar 13, 2015 13:16:00 GMT -5
Ratings so far: 6x16 * 1.33 - lowest rated episode of TVD so far. 6x15 * 1.41 6x14 * 1.52 6x13 * 1.61 6x12 * 1.47 6x11 * 1.63 6x10 * 1.82 6x09 * 1.49 6x08 * 1.68 6x07 * 1.54 6x06 * 1.59 6x05 * 1.58 6x04 * 1.66 6X03 * 1.83 6x02 * 1.67 6x01 * 1.81 sad, because this season is awesome and well, what can I say...it is their loss ... I mean them that aren't watching I think they are starting to understand they have alienated a huge part of there viewers and perhaps with this storyline they are trying to bring them back. The issue is they dont want to lose de and de is extremely demanding more so than any other ship in my opinion sorry if I offend. So they may have hurt themselves so if they try and bring everyone else back they risk lising de but if they stay the course they lose everyone else so I can see the dilemma they are in. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I527 using proboards
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Post by napoli on Mar 13, 2015 16:48:13 GMT -5
The Good
Stefan getting testy with Elena 'I certainly don't think she's having a yard sale Elena.'
Elena seems to have evolved a bit. She almost gave Bonnie the same speech she gave Stefan in s5 'You were stuck there all by yourself while we were back here living our lives...and this is the worst toast ever.' Only Elena stopped herself because she realised that she was being selfish.
Candace did a great job with no-humanity Caroline and they gave Caroline some great lines:
'Remind me why we're glad she's (Bonnie) back again.'
'I shut off my humanity. I didn't turn into an idiot.'
'Oh Bonnie, how we all just missed your commentary.'
'Elena, Stefan unleashed himself from you months ago. He can think for himself now.'
'Relax, she can live without a spleen. You know it's really the infection you should really be worried about.'
Kai with a conscience.
Liam's reaction to Stefan asking him questions about Caroline.
Caroline pretending to bite that guy at the rave just to psyche Elena out.
Bonnie burning that guy's hand. All women should have that ability to defend themselves against men who can't take no for an answer.
Bonnie smiling when she sees Damon's name on her phone and the Bamon banter.
Stefan compelling Sara to not care about vampires in case she ever found out about them. How much more awesome can Stefan be?
Enzo walking away from a flirty Caroline. Even if she was only doing it to get his phone, he still walked away.
Stefan and Caroline fighting in the bar.
Liam going all horror story on Sara.
Bonnie bringing Damon down. It's about time someone taught Damon empathy. Too bad it won't last. This is why Bamon is interesting because Bonnie really does challenge Damon. I don't know if it's because they have the same acting coach but Ian and Kat's scenes are always a highlight.
Stefan asking Elena to bring him back. I knew he would only shut off his humanity if it meant saving someone's life. It made perfect sense that he would do it for Sara given he's been protecting her since even before her birth.
Finding out that mama Salvatore is a ripper too. I never imagined Stefan's redemption story line could get any better but now by having Stefan's ripper state caused by 'a family history' is icing on the cake for Stefan's ripper persona. It was the one last bit of information that was missing from explaining concretely why only Stefan became a ripper.
Stefan and Caroline both being rippers and that last scene with them at the bar. Not only should that be a fun story line but the writers have essentially destroyed a true Steroline pairing. Stefan and Caroline are going to do bad things together and fun things to each other so when they come out of their no-humanity stupour they'll want nothing to do with each other romantically.
Kudos to Ian's directing. Ian did a great job with the material he was given.
The Bad
Elena deserved Stefan getting testy with her. She was seriously acting like she has amnesia when it comes to her friends but when it comes to Damon even without her love memories or any good memory about him she is still in love with him.
Elena giving Caroline a hard time for not killing Liam. Yet Elena overlooks it when Damon actually does kill people.
Stefan blaming himself for Caroline. It's a little too martyrdom even for Stefan.
Sending Lily to the prison world for being a ripper. I hope the writers explain why Stefan wasn't sent to a prison world. Or for that matter why wasn't Damon, Elena (she helped kill Kol and his entire line) or any other out of control vampire. Is it really a matter of numbers?
And The Ugly
Damon being selfish and only thinking about himself and his own plans. He tells Stefan he will check for bodies in case Caroline went over the edge and as soon as he hangs up the phone he ignores what he just told Stefan and goes on with own agenda and also doesn't bother telling Stefan anything about his mother.
Then again when Bonnie specifically told Damon to never even repeat Kai's name to her. Selfish Damon ignores her plea and confronts Bonnie and brings Kai straight to her. Some friend. Damon is so selfish that he completely disregards Bonnie's wishes because to him his plan is more important than Bonnie's pain. I don't even think Damon recognised that Bonnie was in pain. It's that lack of empathy that really seems to screw Damon up.
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