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Post by stelena4ever on Nov 14, 2014 19:52:16 GMT -5
So the Salvatore brothers are not invited to Thanksgiving dinner. This will be great.
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Post by aliensoul13 on Nov 19, 2014 11:13:10 GMT -5
There's also a sneak peek out there, but I'm on my phone, thus unwilling to go through the pain of posting it here. It features Stedalaric (?) talking about Caroline and then arriving at what's supposed to be the Gemini Coven.
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Post by deb on Nov 19, 2014 11:14:59 GMT -5
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Post by aliensoul13 on Nov 19, 2014 11:18:00 GMT -5
Yes! Thank you. It's a cute sneak peek, IMO. The dudes teasing poor Stefan. PS: You can all call me Sara. Aliensoul13 is cute but it sounds too much like a code name for a spy, lol. XD
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Kiki
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Post by Kiki on Nov 19, 2014 11:32:01 GMT -5
Damon is like all the Delena fans. Pushing Stefan into Caroline's arms to make sure he will never be an option for Elena again
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Post by aliensoul13 on Nov 19, 2014 11:39:57 GMT -5
Damon is like all the Delena fans. Pushing Stefan into Caroline's arms to make sure he will never be an option for Elena again You got a good point there. I'm just tired of being angry with the show, so I'm trying to enjoy it for what it is. I never wanted Steroline to happen, but it looks like the writers are going there, so I might as well try to get used to the idea.
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Post by Kiki on Nov 19, 2014 11:50:01 GMT -5
I am tired af stefan getting the short stick all the time. I want him to be happy and i reached a point where i don't care anymore who will make him happy as long as he is really happy with no more feelings and sadnes for elena
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Post by napoli on Nov 19, 2014 12:37:33 GMT -5
I am tired af stefan getting the short stick all the time. I want him to be happy and i reached a point where i don't care anymore who will make him happy as long as he is really happy with no more feelings and sadnes for elena I'm also tired of Damon talking about the woman he raped and the writers just casually overlooking the lack of agency Caroline had in the relationship and treating it as though Damon and Caroline were cute together . I suppose these are the same writers that also ignore the sire bond. So glad they spent an entire season on it just to retcon it. I never expected them to pull a Bobby Ewing like on Dallas.
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Post by deb on Nov 19, 2014 13:44:14 GMT -5
I am tired af stefan getting the short stick all the time. I want him to be happy and i reached a point where i don't care anymore who will make him happy as long as he is really happy with no more feelings and sadnes for elena I got to the point where I found the last Steroline scene, in the last episode ... interesting... Ok, I think it was the cute music and the fact that I desperatley want Stefan to be happy, so when Caroline said she couldn't understand how Elena could let HIM go, I guess I felt that Caroline deserved him more than Elena does, because Caroline obviously appreciates and values him, like he deserves to. But I'm already in a place where, if the writers could make Caroline get back to the cute, lovable, vampire queen she was in s2, 3, 4 and 5, without the whining, and the rejected atitude, I could actualy think Steroline is ok. I guess accomplished their goal with me, they made me move on from SE
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Post by Kiki on Nov 19, 2014 15:30:30 GMT -5
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Post by G-dep on Nov 19, 2014 17:09:28 GMT -5
Hey guys! Been following the forum for sometime keep up the good work (am I the only dude watching this show?)! Not really good at putting my thoughts down but i`ll give it a shot. Looking at the way the writers push for Steroline is bugging me quite a bit because it seems to me that they don`t know what to do with particularly Stefan and trying to find a place for him in the story. If you take Stefan out of the storyline this season he wouldn`t really be missed (as the storyline is concerned not the character itself). He seems like he is misplaced, a lot of the history between him and other characters seem forgotten. Even though I consider him a vital part of the story, it looks like he`s been demoted to a recurring character almost. Its sad to see because Paul Wesley has done a great job establishing the character as a strong lead but it seems like he doesn`t even care anymore. Saw some comments a couple of days ago from the director Michael Allowitz (i think it was him) about some Stelena emotional scenes in this episode (i think it was this episode), hopefully we can atleast get some closure (Stelena fan here).
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Post by crimmyj on Nov 19, 2014 17:22:15 GMT -5
Hey guys! Been following the forum for sometime keep up the good work (am I the only dude watching this show?)! Not really good at putting my thoughts down but i`ll give it a shot. Looking at the way the writers push for Steroline is bugging me quite a bit because it seems to me that they don`t know what to do with particularly Stefan and trying to find a place for him in the story. If you take Stefan out of the storyline this season he wouldn`t really be missed (as the storyline is concerned not the character itself). He seems like he is misplaced, a lot of the history between him and other characters seem forgotten. Even though I consider him a vital part of the story, it looks like he`s been demoted to a recurring character almost. Its sad to see because Paul Wesley has done a great job establishing the character as a strong lead but it seems like he doesn`t even care anymore. Saw some comments a couple of days ago from the director Michael Allowitz (i think it was him) about some Stelena emotional scenes in this episode (i think it was this episode), hopefully we can atleast get some closure (Stelena fan here). Oh heck no, you aren't the only dude watching...some of our regulars here are dudes! And now that you have taken the leap into commenting, keep em coming...the more the merrier. Sadly, I don't think you are wrong here in your Stefan observation. It certainly feels like he has been relegated to a side piece, which is sad because Stefan is such a full realized character on the show. I keep hoping this season will start to pick up on the storylines again, solve some mysteries, proper teamwork, uneasy alliances...that made this show much more engaging but too much focus is on ships and its killing the show a bit or at least stunted its momentum.
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Post by deb on Nov 19, 2014 17:28:49 GMT -5
Let me guess your home site is D-C...close?? I respectfully disagree with the entire post.... There is no comparison between the two events.... First Stefan did not compel Ivy to be his sex toy/blood bag....There's no proof Stefan even fed on Ivy and as far as his deception goes, he was totally honest with her and told her he was a vampire....where's the deception??? There's no canon that Stefan had sexual contact with any of his "ripper" victims, unlike Damon, who not only assaulted those he compelled but their mothers too. lol JP doesn't need any help recon the series with fantasy events, if you have a scene in mind that shows Stefan sexually abusing his victims ...link it... Ivy is dead because Caro trusted Damon's friend Enz-hole.... she of all people should have know better.... If you want to discuss this further, I'll be happy to join you on a debate thread...... shoe20 thank you, very well said. And let's go back to the topic which was the next episode. After last episodes Steroline scene I thought maybe if Stefan thinks about his friendship with caroline in a different way now he might change his mind about the romance part. But looks like he had some time to think about it and there is no romantic feeling for Caroline. It doesn't look like she will be the love of his life if it takes him so long to fall for her, doesn't it? That's the problem Kiki, the writers don't let Stefan move on and be happy. If they did, I believe many of us wouldn't look back... I guess we'll always remember SE as an epic love, with some awesome scenes, but we would move on too. The problem is that the writers want us to know that Stefan will never stop loving Elena
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Post by deb on Nov 19, 2014 17:35:29 GMT -5
Hey guys! Been following the forum for sometime keep up the good work (am I the only dude watching this show?)! Not really good at putting my thoughts down but i`ll give it a shot. Looking at the way the writers push for Steroline is bugging me quite a bit because it seems to me that they don`t know what to do with particularly Stefan and trying to find a place for him in the story. If you take Stefan out of the storyline this season he wouldn`t really be missed (as the storyline is concerned not the character itself). He seems like he is misplaced, a lot of the history between him and other characters seem forgotten. Even though I consider him a vital part of the story, it looks like he`s been demoted to a recurring character almost. Its sad to see because Paul Wesley has done a great job establishing the character as a strong lead but it seems like he doesn`t even care anymore. Saw some comments a couple of days ago from the director Michael Allowitz (i think it was him) about some Stelena emotional scenes in this episode (i think it was this episode), hopefully we can atleast get some closure (Stelena fan here). Oh heck no, you aren't the only dude watching...some of our regulars here are dudes! And now that you have taken the leap into commenting, keep em coming...the more the merrier. Sadly, I don't think you are wrong here in your Stefan observation. It certainly feels like he has been relegated to a side piece, which is sad because Stefan is such a full realized character on the show. I keep hoping this season will start to pick up on the storylines again, solve some mysteries, proper teamwork, uneasy alliances...that made this show much more engaging but too much focus is on ships and its killing the show a bit or at least stunted its momentum. I once saw somewhere that C. Dries said she didn't know how to write Stefan's character That says a lot. Also, I've seen a theory about Paul wanting to leave after s07 and the writers establishing the DE endgame because of that. For me, personaly, till the beggining of s06, I always thought the writers wanted to make SE endgame but, for some weird reason, they changed their minds because, this season, is full of retcons to make DE look better.
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Post by demetra on Nov 19, 2014 17:39:46 GMT -5
Hey guys! Been following the forum for sometime keep up the good work (am I the only dude watching this show?)! Not really good at putting my thoughts down but i`ll give it a shot. Looking at the way the writers push for Steroline is bugging me quite a bit because it seems to me that they don`t know what to do with particularly Stefan and trying to find a place for him in the story. If you take Stefan out of the storyline this season he wouldn`t really be missed (as the storyline is concerned not the character itself). He seems like he is misplaced, a lot of the history between him and other characters seem forgotten. Even though I consider him a vital part of the story, it looks like he`s been demoted to a recurring character almost. Its sad to see because Paul Wesley has done a great job establishing the character as a strong lead but it seems like he doesn`t even care anymore. Saw some comments a couple of days ago from the director Michael Allowitz (i think it was him) about some Stelena emotional scenes in this episode (i think it was this episode), hopefully we can atleast get some closure (Stelena fan here). Oh heck no, you aren't the only dude watching...some of our regulars here are dudes! And now that you have taken the leap into commenting, keep em coming...the more the merrier. Sadly, I don't think you are wrong here in your Stefan observation. It certainly feels like he has been relegated to a side piece, which is sad because Stefan is such a full realized character on the show. I keep hoping this season will start to pick up on the storylines again, solve some mysteries, proper teamwork, uneasy alliances...that made this show much more engaging but too much focus is on ships and its killing the show a bit or at least stunted its momentum. I agree with your Stefan observations. I feel like some of the changes we have seen for Stefan are well-intentioned by both Paul Wesley and Julie Plec, giving the character a different path each year. However, in my own opinion, I wasn't that keen on their choices for Silas and I'm not sold on the approach they have taken for Stefan this year. In both instances, I think Paul Wesley may have advocated for a low-key approach, but I'm not sure those choices have been that convincing. It feels like Stefan has gone missing. I don't really know where Stefan's feelings for Elena have gone, for example. It doesn't make sense to me that he was able to get over the choices that Elena made. There has been a thru-line in that he hasn't been able to leave. Even when he tried to start again, it wasn't actually clear to those of us who don't live in the area, that Savannah, Georgia, was supposed to be some distance from Mystic Falls, or even how far Mystic Falls is from Whitmore College. I mean, he was trying to start again -- to not have any impact on the humans around him by not exercising his vampire privileges -- but in every instance, it seems to have gone pear-shaped for him. Very little time has passed since Damon actually returned. Maybe there will be more space for Stefan to have words to say in terms of verbalizing things to Damon in upcoming episodes.
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