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Post by katvolley13 on Oct 9, 2014 20:03:23 GMT -5
I am actually surprised since they hinted with the white dress with the god awful I love you damon speech she was wearing that so I am happy with the episode it was not horrible
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 20:09:14 GMT -5
I really liked the episode, it was very good!!! more later. Nite y'all.
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Post by Andrew55 on Oct 9, 2014 23:27:44 GMT -5
First off I am disappointed that Julie decided to go the retcon route and change S3. I always find retcons a very lazy and sloppy form of writing. Not to mention it is disrespectful to all the fans who have watched the show from the beginning. I'm kind of glad they forced Elena to forget her love for Damon. We need a break from all the whining and angst involved with Elena's character. We all know they will reunite but we just need a break. I was happy Caroline called Stefan a "dick" because he was acting like one towards her. He deserved to be called out on that. However, Enzo is such a tool. He acts like he knows Stefan and who he is just because he has been around him for a select period of time. But then again, he just knows Damon's side of the story about everything. The writers needed a reason for Stefan to return to the MF area and this was the reason....revenge and vengeance aimed at Enzo. And while Stefan is there....Elena will convince him to stay. But, all in all, not a bad episode. Loathe the retcon thing but it is what it is now.
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Post by crimmyj on Oct 9, 2014 23:40:28 GMT -5
First off I am disappointed that Julie decided to go the retcon route and change S3. I always find retcons a very lazy and sloppy form of writing. Not to mention it is disrespectful to all the fans who have watched the show from the beginning. I'm kind of glad they forced Elena to forget her love for Damon. We need a break from all the whining and angst involved with Elena's character. We all know they will reunite but we just need a break. I was happy Caroline called Stefan a "dick" because he was acting like one towards her. He deserved to be called out on that. However, Enzo is such a tool. He acts like he knows Stefan and who he is just because he has been around him for a select period of time. But then again, he just knows Damon's side of the story about everything. The writers needed a reason for Stefan to return to the MF area and this was the reason....revenge and vengeance aimed at Enzo. And while Stefan is there....Elena will convince him to stay. But, all in all, not a bad episode. Loathe the retcon thing but it is what it is now. Couldn't agree with you more, Andrew55! Which is why the very moment Elena mentions wanting to be compelled I was pissed and disappointed because I knew that was just a way the writers could rewrite the series to fit their needs. retconning is BS.
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Post by lilmisskay on Oct 9, 2014 23:46:35 GMT -5
I love this episode. I think it was better than the premier episode. Although, I did got mad at my T.v. I was watching the show and when it was about fifteen minutes left of the show, it went to commercial then all of the sudden it had the CW logo. It went on like that for a good few minutes before the show comes back on. From what I get, I missed something that happened between Stefan and Caroline and I missed the first half of Alaric and Elena. I manage to watch about two minutes of the ending of that scene before it went into the commercial. Can someone fill me in on what happened?
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Post by Kiki on Oct 10, 2014 6:37:04 GMT -5
After the first episode I was close to stop watching for a few weeks. But I was too curious again and I'm glad I watched this episode. Elena finally took off her Damon glases and can see who Damon really is. A monster who killed her brother. I don't care if she will fall for Stefan again or not. At least there is hope she will be a lovable character again. And I am soooooo much team Carenzo. It was so cute how angry he became at Stefan when he saw Caroline crying. Although I hate everyone who hurts Stefan I loved how Enzo punshed him because he made Caroline cry. Stefan kind of deserved this one
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Post by katvolley13 on Oct 10, 2014 8:38:45 GMT -5
Firstly I disagree with you kiki for once in my life stefen was wanting peace after realizing there was nothing he could do he does not deserve to have his new girlfriend killed too.
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Post by Kiki on Oct 10, 2014 8:41:37 GMT -5
Firstly I disagree with you kiki for once in my life stefen was wanting peace after realizing there was nothing he could do he does not deserve to have his new girlfriend killed too. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I527 using proboards of course he didn't deserve his girlfriend killed. I ment he deserved the punsh for making Caroline cry. The punsh would have been enough. Killing Ivy was cruel and unnecessary
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Post by katvolley13 on Oct 10, 2014 9:30:25 GMT -5
Oh ok yeah a punch ok lol
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2014 9:33:31 GMT -5
Firstly I disagree with you kiki for once in my life stefen was wanting peace after realizing there was nothing he could do he does not deserve to have his new girlfriend killed too. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I527 using proboards of course he didn't deserve his girlfriend killed. I ment he deserved the punsh for making Caroline cry. The punsh would have been enough. Killing Ivy was cruel and unnecessary I was starting to like Enzo, but when he killed Ivy, I was like "you idiot, why did you do that? God!" Killing an innocent girl... horrible! Just horrible! Trying to emulate Damon and his "revenge" fantasy on Stefan doesn't make you look good Enzo, it just makes you pathetic; kinda like his lackey. At-least Damon did things with a bit of flair. Enzo trying to fill those shoes: not happening!!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2014 10:22:32 GMT -5
of course he didn't deserve his girlfriend killed. I ment he deserved the punsh for making Caroline cry. The punsh would have been enough. Killing Ivy was cruel and unnecessary I was starting to like Enzo, but when he killed Ivy, I was like "you idiot, why did you do that? God!" Killing an innocent girl... horrible! Just horrible! Trying to emulate Damon and his "revenge" fantasy on Stefan doesn't make you look good Enzo, it just makes you pathetic; kinda like his lackey. At-least Damon did things with a bit of flair. Enzo trying to fill those shoes: not happening!!! Who is Enzo anyway to judge Stefan? Stefan knows his brother for how many years and they have been through through so much! Enzo is neither a moral compass nor a behaviour guideline. I thought that was pretty rich of him to descend on Stefan like that for making caro cry, Stefan has done enough already for everybody incl Elena and Damon and if he wants to move on, then they can just leave him alone imo, of course they can't because we need another reason for Stef to return to MF or near MF or the story can't continue. Imo Stef hasn't done anything wrong.
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Post by shoe20 on Oct 10, 2014 12:04:58 GMT -5
This episode sets the stage...... Do you guys see where this is headed? Stefan crawls back to MF (GF less) because he's a "dick"...... Elena only remembers her love for him and is on him like "white on rice"..... Stefan wavers because his love is real .... Damon resurrected with DE's love "necklace" that Stefan gave her for protection from Damon ... DE "rain kiss" ..... heart rip 2.0 ... Stefan "flower girl" and "footstool" for DE to climb in their "marriage carriage"....... The organic (compost) love story is complete. Epic
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Post by demetra on Oct 10, 2014 12:19:10 GMT -5
This episode sets the stage...... Do you guys see where this is headed? Stefan crawls back to MF (GF less) because he's a "dick"...... Elena only remembers her love for him and is on him like "white on rice"..... Stefan wavers because his love is real .... Damon resurrected with DE's love "necklace" that Stefan gave her for protection from Damon ... DE "rain kiss" ..... heart rip 2.0 ... Stefan "flower girl" and "footstool" for DE to climb in their "marriage carriage"....... The organic (compost) love story is complete. Epic 8-) shoe20, :) I don't know if I would agree step by step but I think we suddenly have this expectation that the onus will be on Stefan to do something selfless -- AGAIN -- to bring Damon and Elena back together.
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Post by demetra on Oct 10, 2014 12:21:56 GMT -5
I've only seen 6x02 once, in snippets. But I loved this episode. it makes sense for those who have been watching the show since Season One.
Elena's dilemma was clearly presented and was authentic to both the books and the TVD series. YEP. That IS her character's central dilemma. Not only did she fall in love with a vampire, but actually, she has had the tremendous misfortune of falling in love with two vampires. That's heavy. I came out of it not hating her, which I think is pretty big of me considering I am SE.
Okay, I did like Enzo. Stefan is getting crapped on -- but understandable from Enzo's point of view as someone who is in love with Damon, who is unstable and unpredictable in the same way and in the same psychological situation as Damon was when we first met him 1x01 (Augustine plus humanity turned off), and who has an unnatural sense of custody towards Damon due to years of imprisonment with him.
I like the idea going forward that Stefan is going back to Mystic Falls on a vendetta for Enzo. Good fight scene after dinner, well done Stefan for breaking Enzo's neck. At least he is not being portrayed as a physical pushover. That is, Stefan and Enzo are evenly matched. I can't wait for the big vamp guy fight scene with Damon, Enzo, Stefan and Ric all beating the crap out of each other. Obviously it would be in a bar and they'd all have to be drunk out of their minds -- but it could be pretty funny.
Also well done Stefan for showing that he has remained in control of his blood lust!
Except for the new alignment of REM's Everybody Hurts, one of my favourite songs, with an horrific concept. Also I loved Pascal's direction and Julie's writing! One quibble with the way Stefan is being shot, funny angle, please get back in on his face.
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Post by Kiki on Oct 10, 2014 12:49:50 GMT -5
Also! I guess the date of May 10, 1994 will have something to do with the 90s flashback coming up. Is that someone's birthdate? If so, that person would be just over 20. Jeremy's birthdate was in October 1993, so someone six months younger than Jeremy? Googling that date, there was a total solar eclipse on May 10, 1994, So something big enough for a witch to hang her hat on PLUS explains the season poster night for day premise ie Dark Dimension idea. There is a partial solar eclipse coming up October 23 and a full solar eclipse coming up March 2015. Maybe Bonnie and Damon's fate is connected to those dates. Wow demetra amazing guess with the eclipse!!!!!
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