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Post by deb on Jul 10, 2014 14:18:56 GMT -5
10/07 * Favourite episode and song in s04? Episode 4x01 Song This ^^^^^^^^ And, this scene was AWFUL for me but the music is just amazing:
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 15:10:44 GMT -5
10/07 * Favourite episode and song in s04?
My favorite episode, hands down, was "Bring it On." I loved seeing Elena go bad for once, especially in this scene:
Elena proved that she can be tougher than Caroline if the occasion calls for it. My theory is that Elena almost killed Caroline not because Alaric trained Elena, but because Elena being part doppelganger gives her added power and makes her stronger. Elena won a fight with Katherine later on, even though Katherine had 500 years on her. This made me wonder if Elena might be stronger than the average doppelganger-vampire because she was sired, or possibly because of something Klaus did. Enzo might have only been able to break Elena's neck in S5 because she didn't really want to kill him, despite the way he had just tortured her. He was Damon's only friend.
I guess the song I would pick is "I Love It" by Icono Pop. I used to dance to that song all the time when it first came out. Again, I refer to "Bring it On":
Elena might have been a little b***y, but I loved seeing her get snarky for once and speak her mind. I think Elena with humanity had the same or similar opinions, she was just afraid to hurt anyone's feelings.
The interesting thing was that even without humanity, Elena was still affected by Elijah. Too bad that will never be explored.
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Post by crimmyj on Jul 10, 2014 17:05:58 GMT -5
Favorite episode and song in season 4?
hmm, Favorite episode might have to be O Come, All Ye Faithful (Ep9), that was a brutal edge of my seat episode, Klaus killing Mrs. Lockwood while Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas plays in the background left quite an impression. And I also loved Ep20 The Originals (basically the back door pilot for that series) ...says a lot when I find that episode one of the strongest of that season. Klaus was bringing his A game big time.
This scene is EVERYTHING. plus great music starting with TV on the Radio - New Cannonball Blues and ending with The National - Terrible Love. oooo chills.
Fav music moments...you guys always beat me to the obvious ones! So its fun to find other moments that stuck out to me.
The Boxer Rebellion - Dream
The XX - Missing. I LOVE this song, so I loved they used it in the show for such a sexy scene. This scene was HOT. Stefan has never been sexier. hot damn.
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Post by stelena4ever on Jul 10, 2014 19:46:30 GMT -5
10/07 * Favourite episode and song in s04?
Favourite episode would have to be 4x01 - Growing Pains - This episode had 2 of the best scenes for SE. I guess that is why it is my favorite. Elena telling Stefan she choose him and Stefan putting the daylight ring on Elena's finger.
Favorite Song:
Stay - Rihanna
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 10:04:02 GMT -5
11/07 * Favourite episode and song in s05?
I've been over this before, but I guess I'll put it here again. The song title and artist escape me at the moment (curse my bad memory), but my fav episode from Season 5 is Home (the finale), and my favorite song was in the final scene:
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Post by deb on Jul 11, 2014 12:30:56 GMT -5
11/07 * Favourite episode and song in s05?
Let's say, only rewatchable episode in s05: 5x18
Songs:
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Post by crimmyj on Jul 11, 2014 15:17:45 GMT -5
Favorite episode and song in Season 5?
This question is hard for very different reasons...not a lot of great episodes to pick from. I rather enjoyed 500 Years of Solitude (Ep11) and wished that was Katherine's swan song (thanks writers for screwing that up)
This scene was beautiful with beautiful music (Illusory Light by Sarah Blasko). Reminded me of one of my favorite Buffy quotes from Giles in season 2, "To forgive is an act of compassion, Buffy. It's not done because people deserve it, it's done because they need it." and it also reminded us yet again of Stefan's pure heart. and the fact the Katherine started off just as innocent and human as all the characters on the show. Your choices matter. We are shaped by events in our lives whether good or bad, but it is how we react to such events that reveals our character. Unfortunately for Katherine her choices became more and more self serving, and though she lived a long life she paid a hefty price.
As for songs...excellent work by Chris Mollere this season. My season 5 playlist far exceeds the actual quality of the season! I could list at least 5+ songs I love.
The Neighbourhood - Afraid
David Gray - The Other Side
Kodaline - All I Want
Raign - Don't Let Me Go ....This scene kills me, and for my money was far more emotional than Caroline screaming/crying. The timing of the music, Mollere magic.
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Post by stelena4ever on Jul 11, 2014 19:46:55 GMT -5
11/07 * Favourite episode and song in s05?
The only favourite episode I have of this season is 5x18, the episode Paul directed. deb already posted the video so I won't repeat it. But I loved the episode because of all the visions Stefan and Elena where having.
Favourite Songs:
5x07 - Afraid of the Dark - Ejecta
5x13 - Say Something - A Great Big World & Christina Aguilera
5x18 - Mad World - Sara Hickman
and last of not least 5x21 - Don't Let Me Go - Raign. I won't post the video because crimmyj already did. It is when Stefan dies.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 7:20:05 GMT -5
Favorite episode and song in Season 5? This question is hard for very different reasons...not a lot of great episodes to pick from. I rather enjoyed 500 Years of Solitude (Ep11) and wished that was Katherine's swan song (thanks writers for screwing that up) This scene was beautiful with beautiful music (Illusory Light by Sarah Blasko). Reminded me of one of my favorite Buffy quotes from Giles in season 2, "To forgive is an act of compassion, Buffy. It's not done because people deserve it, it's done because they need it." and it also reminded us yet again of Stefan's pure heart. and the fact the Katherine started off just as innocent and human as all the characters on the show. Your choices matter. We are shaped by events in our lives whether good or bad, but it is how we react to such events that reveals our character. Unfortunately for Katherine her choices became more and more self serving, and though she lived a long life she paid a hefty price. Raign - Don't Let Me Go ....This scene kills me, and for my money was far more emotional than Caroline screaming/crying. The timing of the music, Mollere magic. I loved how you referenced Giles' quote to Buffy about forgiveness, because I've been recalling that lately too, just for a different reason. It's my personal feeling that Stefan was nice to Katherine because it would have been OOC for him to mistreat her after sleeping with her. It was Elena's forgiveness of Katherine that moved me the most, and that was what was so infuriating about what Katherine did to Elena afterwards. Katherine proved herself to be evil to the core. Even Julie Plec couldn't stress that point enough. Stefan and Caroline both blamed Klaus for Katherine's behavior, but I'm willing to wager that Elena saw in Katherine's memories exactly why they were wrong. I think this is why Elena was distant from everyone but Damon when she was brought back. At the end of Resident Evil, Elena expressed a fear that if she didn't have someone or something to hold onto, she would turn into someone she didn't want to be. She might have been afraid of losing her capacity to forgive. That's the part of her humanity that she never wants to lose. She made the mistake of telling Katherine this because she didn't hear Elijah ask Katherine in Season 4 why Katherine would want to turn Elena into her. Making Elena a monster everyone would hate was part of Katherine's agenda. Back on the subject of forgiving as an act of compassion, I don't think anyone forgave Katherine for selfless reasons. Everyone had some kind of grudge in that episode. Further proof that Stefan didn't have genuine compassion for Katherine was how, after defending every bad thing she did (again, because he slept with her), he still joined in on the drinking game. Later on Stefan told "Elena" that he didn't care that Katherine was dead, and he was the one to stick a dagger in Katherine even though he was the one she trusted most. If anyone forgave Katherine for no good reason, it was Klaus. Letting go of a need for revenge is technically a form of forgiveness. True that Caroline had to admit to her feelings for Klaus to make that happen (having sex was her idea), but he let go of a 500-year grudge to please a girl who only wanted to use him and then make him go away. That speaks volumes about his character. It's too bad that he had to be put on a different show. The most epic act of forgiveness, not to mention a truly selfless one, would be if Elena forgave Klaus. That has yet to happen and I don't know that it ever will. I agree that Bonnie's reaction to Stefan's death was much more moving than Caroline's. I am really tired of Caroline. From where I'm sitting, she is no longer the bubbly, likable character she was before she started leading Klaus on and hurting Tyler. 12/07 * Favorite episode of the series so far? (dman24 suggestion)
My favorite episode was Resident Evil. I don't have time to find a gif or video right now, but I loved how Paul Wesley directed the dream sequences. My favorite dream sequence was the one where Elena had two children. She later said that she was never going to have children with Stefan, but the fact that the writers brought up the idea of Elena having children at all makes me wonder if that might be explored in future episodes. Elena isn't a normal vampire, and now she might be a traveler like Nadia was because Elena is descended from travelers, got stabbed with the dagger, and spent time in someone else's body. Between that and being a doppelganger, Elena could have a loophole in nature now. I always enjoy episodes that think outside the box, so to speak.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 8:16:39 GMT -5
12/07 * Favorite episode of the series so far? (dman24 suggestion)
season 1 episode 1 pilot
why? I was sick with mononucleosis, isolated and then accidentally streamed TVD -->
it was the beginning of a long long relationship with TVD
and then that historical "HELLO BROTHER" .....
I could just watch and rewatch this episode over and over again!!!!
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Post by stelena4ever on Jul 12, 2014 11:57:58 GMT -5
12/07 * Favorite episode of the series so far? (dman24 suggestion)
This is really tough to choose just one because for me there have been so many through the years. So I will go back to the beginning. The episodes that made me fall in love with Stefan and Elena.
1x01 - The Pilot - The cemetery scene was just beautiful for me. The way they looked into each others eyes. I just felt they had this instant connection.
1x02 - The Night of the Comet - Stefan and Elena's first kiss.
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Post by crimmyj on Jul 12, 2014 15:27:29 GMT -5
I loved how you referenced Giles' quote to Buffy about forgiveness, because I've been recalling that lately too, just for a different reason. I t's my personal feeling that Stefan was nice to Katherine because it would have been OOC for him to mistreat her after sleeping with her. It was Elena's forgiveness of Katherine that moved me the most, and that was what was so infuriating about what Katherine did to Elena afterwards. Katherine proved herself to be evil to the core. Even Julie Plec couldn't stress that point enough. Stefan and Caroline both blamed Klaus for Katherine's behavior, but I'm willing to wager that Elena saw in Katherine's memories exactly why they were wrong. I think this is why Elena was distant from everyone but Damon when she was brought back. At the end of Resident Evil, Elena expressed a fear that if she didn't have someone or something to hold onto, she would turn into someone she didn't want to be. She might have been afraid of losing her capacity to forgive. That's the part of her humanity that she never wants to lose. She made the mistake of telling Katherine this because she didn't hear Elijah ask Katherine in Season 4 why Katherine would want to turn Elena into her. Making Elena a monster everyone would hate was part of Katherine's agenda. Back on the subject of forgiving as an act of compassion, I don't think anyone forgave Katherine for selfless reasons. Everyone had some kind of grudge in that episode. Further proof that Stefan didn't have genuine compassion for Katherine was how, after defending every bad thing she did (again, because he slept with her), he still joined in on the drinking game. Later on Stefan told "Elena" that he didn't care that Katherine was dead, and he was the one to stick a dagger in Katherine even though he was the one she trusted most. If anyone forgave Katherine for no good reason, it was Klaus. Letting go of a need for revenge is technically a form of forgiveness. True that Caroline had to admit to her feelings for Klaus to make that happen (having sex was her idea), but he let go of a 500-year grudge to please a girl who only wanted to use him and then make him go away. That speaks volumes about his character. It's too bad that he had to be put on a different show. The most epic act of forgiveness, not to mention a truly selfless one, would be if Elena forgave Klaus. That has yet to happen and I don't know that it ever will. I agree that Bonnie's reaction to Stefan's death was much more moving than Caroline's. I am really tired of Caroline. From where I'm sitting, she is no longer the bubbly, likable character she was before she started leading Klaus on and hurting Tyler. 12/07 * Favorite episode of the series so far? (dman24 suggestion)
My favorite episode was Resident Evil. I don't have time to find a gif or video right now, but I loved how Paul Wesley directed the dream sequences. My favorite dream sequence was the one where Elena had two children. She later said that she was never going to have children with Stefan, but the fact that the writers brought up the idea of Elena having children at all makes me wonder if that might be explored in future episodes. Elena isn't a normal vampire, and now she might be a traveler like Nadia was because Elena is descended from travelers, got stabbed with the dagger, and spent time in someone else's body. Between that and being a doppelganger, Elena could have a loophole in nature now. I always enjoy episodes that think outside the box, so to speak. I am one who tries to take the dialogue given at face value, because it is a show about fictional characters and its through the writers words that is our only basis to judge, no? Dialogue in 5x11 shows Stefan's intentions in helping Katherine were all about her finding peace. When he and Elena were getting their blood drained in that episode and Elena finally figured out that Katherine helped Stefan with his PTSD, then remarked, "Can I still hate her anyway?" Stefan replies, " You can. But I don't. I know I should, but for some reason, I keep rooting for her to find peace." Then he also ties that in to Elena should forgive Damon as well. And when Stefan "joins" in the drinking game he does so to shame them for what they are doing not to tear Katherine down but to honor her most valuable skill. Stefan: In 1864, Katherine moved into my home, she compelled me to love her, seduced my brother, fed us full of vampire blood and then started a war with the town that got us killed. Damon: Exactly. Bottoms up. Stefan: But, centuries before that, she was just an innocent girl that was shunned by her family. So for 500 years, she lied and manipulated and did whatever she had to do to survive. And she did. She's a survivor, right? So that's the girl I will drink to today. Cheers. (cut to looks of shamed faces) Plus when Elena was with Katherine (with her use of "I" it can be taken as a non selfless forgiveness) she didn't get into her memories, so how what would she "see" in Katherine's memories that are wrong? I think it can be quite a stretch to blame Katherine for the death of her family, her actions caused another character to act violently, but she had no way of knowing exactly what Klaus was capable of or would do. The one person who is truly to blame for the death of Katherine's family is Klaus. Don't want to get in trouble from Ruby or deb (sorry, guys!) ...so we could take this over to the debate forums. Debating can be fun! Staying on task! Favorite episode of the series so far?*thinks*, This show runs at such a constant speed throughout the seasons that it is hard to just snatch an episode in the middle of the chaos and say its a favorite. It is like playing the game Jenga, you can pull a piece out that causes it all the fall. Some of the episodes need the episodes surrounding it to be great. Am I making ANY sense? Yeah, probably not. So, like a lot of you guys I was going to say the pilot episode but I think I will go with Lost Girls (S1ep6) because (again Buffy reference) similar to BTVS and the episode 'Angel' the reveal to the main character of a vampire boyfriend is when both shows lost the proverbial training wheels and really took it to the next level. And it was like a runaway train ever since. Oddly enough both those episodes happened roughly in the same time in the inaugural season, 6th episode for TVD and 7th episode for BTVS.
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Post by shoe20 on Jul 12, 2014 16:07:14 GMT -5
I am one who tries to take the dialogue given at face value, because it is a show about fictional characters and its through the writers words that is our only basis to judge, no? Dialogue in 5x11 shows Stefan's intentions in helping Katherine were all about her finding peace. When he and Elena were getting their blood drained in that episode and Elena finally figured out that Katherine helped Stefan with his PTSD, then remarked, "Can I still hate her anyway?" Stefan replies, " You can. But I don't. I know I should, but for some reason, I keep rooting for her to find peace." Then he also ties that in to Elena should forgive Damon as well. And when Stefan "joins" in the drinking game he does so to shame them for what they are doing not to tear Katherine down but to honor her most valuable skill. Stefan: In 1864, Katherine moved into my home, she compelled me to love her, seduced my brother, fed us full of vampire blood and then started a war with the town that got us killed. Just grabbed a piece, but liked the whole post...... Your comment on taking the dialogue at face value.... really rings my bells. I typed countless comments quoting actual script and being rebuffed with "sure that's what he said, but what he really meant.....yada yada. Like I said .... rings my bells Thanks for that. The second highlight from Stefan's toast is exactly accurate to the S5 scene, but It is not what happened in S1 ..... Stefan knows it and the writers should too. Katherine compelled Stefan to "NOT BE AFRAID". Not "to love her". He expressed how he felt about her before she compelled him. It's the writer's REWRITING series history and it pisses me off. LOL
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Post by crimmyj on Jul 12, 2014 16:24:06 GMT -5
I am one who tries to take the dialogue given at face value, because it is a show about fictional characters and its through the writers words that is our only basis to judge, no? Dialogue in 5x11 shows Stefan's intentions in helping Katherine were all about her finding peace. When he and Elena were getting their blood drained in that episode and Elena finally figured out that Katherine helped Stefan with his PTSD, then remarked, "Can I still hate her anyway?" Stefan replies, " You can. But I don't. I know I should, but for some reason, I keep rooting for her to find peace." Then he also ties that in to Elena should forgive Damon as well. And when Stefan "joins" in the drinking game he does so to shame them for what they are doing not to tear Katherine down but to honor her most valuable skill. Stefan: In 1864, Katherine moved into my home, she compelled me to love her, seduced my brother, fed us full of vampire blood and then started a war with the town that got us killed. Just grabbed a piece, but liked the whole post...... Your comment on taking the dialogue at face value.... really rings my bells. I typed countless comments quoting actual script and being rebuffed with "sure that's what he said, but what he really meant.....yada yada. Like I said .... rings my bells Thanks for that. The second highlight from Stefan's toast is exactly accurate to the S5 scene, but It is not what happened in S1 ..... Stefan knows it and the writers should too. Katherine compelled Stefan to "NOT BE AFRAID". Not "to love her". He expressed how he felt about her before she compelled him. It's the writer's REWRITING series history and it pisses me off. LOL To me its pretty clear that some of the newer writers did ZERO homework, especially in regards to Season 1. It is like they write things as if season 1 didnt exist. There are countless examples of revising in that regard. *defeated sigh* And yes, the whole rabbit hole of audience members trying to decipher a characters thoughts and using that to argue against the actual words, which in a fictional world is the only thing we can go from. *shakes head* oy vey. You might have compelled me to slide on over to the venting vault to rant on the writers yet again. I might need liquor to fuel my hatefire. I am already irritable because I can't eat what I want yet. I WANNA CRUNCH ON THINGS! *chomp chomp*
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Post by teppy1 on Jul 12, 2014 17:58:19 GMT -5
My favorite scene is kinda hard actually for season 5 even though I am not the biggest fan. Paul had some great scenes, but I think I like this one best because it is when Stefan actually stood up for himself and made me hope that amnesia stefan could stay amnesia stefan. The scene start at 1.20
My favorite music moment has to be when they used Gravity in the SE scene. It was just perfect. Elena ruined it, but it was perfect before that.
Favorite Episode 1x19 this is just Paul Wesley perfection. He just did so well and it was when I really started highly respecting Paul Wesley's acting skills.
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