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Post by Ruby on Apr 22, 2014 7:01:34 GMT -5
I wanted to open up a thread to discuss this confusing war going on.
When we were first introduced to the travelers it was in the form of Silas and Tessa
They were powerful Traveler leaders who created the immortality spell.
Then Silas betrayed Tessa with Amara and because of this she killed entombed Silas and Created The Other side where all the witches and supernatural beings go when they die.
In the beginning of season 5 it seemed that the travelers wanted to be rid of the anchor to get rid of the other side? or so I thought. They kept the anchor who was Amara.
Tessa made Bonnie who was a dead witch into the new anchor to keep the other side alive.
The witches however do not like the travelers because they are too strong to control when they are together?
SO they cursed the travelers so they can never be able to settle down as a group. Now the Travelers want to break this curse and they need Doppelganger love which was a "side effect" from the immortality spell Tessa created.
If they break the curse that means something will happen to the other side but then what happens to the witches?
Jusst wanted to gather all the information I know and share it so we can discuss it! =)
Let me know what you guys think
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Post by Kiki on Apr 22, 2014 10:10:51 GMT -5
Am I wrong or was Tessa (and I think Silas, too) introduced as the most powerful witch of all? Later we found out that she and Silas were the leaders of the travelers, too. So they were both? How is it possible that witches and travelers are at war now if they once were one? When did witches and travelers become two different kinds and what makes the difference. They both are pretty good with spells so I cannot really see a difference yet? Maybe they will bring back the dark magic thing which Bonnie discovered last season? Witches do good magic and travelers do dark magic?
Are the traveler's plans for the doppelgängers and their mythology still connected to Silas and Amara? Or can we forget about Silas now? I think this storyline didn't really come to an end. Too many open ends for me there. And someone said in an interview that we will come back to this at the end of the sesason. I wonder how.
Witches are very picky people. They don't like vampires, they don't like travelers and they interfere in everyones business all the time. WHY? What is their problem with the travelers?
This whole Silas storyline leaves me confused. From the beginning: Silas and Tessa were in love and created the immortality spell to be together forever Silas cheated on Tessa with Amara so Tessa killed Amara and created the other side to keep them apart And there was the hunter story. 5 Hunters (why 5?) who had to kill 5 vampires to get the map to find Silas (who created the hunters? Tessa's plan was to keep him undead and suffering forever right?) Silas' plan was to become mortal again by taking the cure created by Tessa (why did she create it if it destroys her plans of him suffering forever?) and die human to be with Amara who like he thought died human, too. Then Katherine took the cure and Silas new plan was to find the anchor and destroy the other side so no matter how he would die he'd be with Amara because there would be only one place for all dead people... right??? Then it turned out Amara is the anchor which means Silas cannot destroy the anchor because he loves Amara. But Bonnie replaced Amara, the other side was safe, Silas died as a supernatural traveler and Amara died as human. No happy end for them. But when in this whole storyline come the travelers into play? Marcos said 1500 years ago. So 500 years after Silas cheated on Tessa. What happened 1500 years ago that split witches and travelers into two different kinds? Does the hunterstoryline come into play once more? Tessa as a witch burried Silas alive and maybe the travelers created the hunters to save Silas? Witches against travelers... Silas against Tessa? In the ancient time flashback Silas, Tessa and Amara seemed to live in Ancient Greece or Rom. How did his body come to Nova Scotia? Maybe someone woke him 1500 years ago or stole his body and moved him? Maybe that was the reason for the travelers curse?
Why did the travelers keep Amara? Maybe they waited for a chance to take Silas, too so they'd have the doppelganger pairing. But they didn't know that there are more doppelgängers at that time. When they found out about Katherine they wanted her dead. Maybe because whatever they want from the doppelgängers only works if there is only one of each.
And one more thing... when Silas met Nadia at the gasstation early this season they hated each other immediately. Silas knew she was a traveler and he called her gypsy I think. Why did Silas hate travelers if he was one when he was burried alive? How can he know about the travelers-witches war if this started 500 years after he was burried?
I think Silas was awake for some time 500 years after he was burried first.
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Post by katvolley13 on Apr 22, 2014 19:24:15 GMT -5
Whoa you both made my head spin
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Post by napoli on Apr 25, 2014 14:08:57 GMT -5
I'd like to know why the witches cursed the travelers in the first place. The witches haven't come across as a vengeful group of people so it seems like the travelers were up to no good for the witches to curse them. Are the travelers still up to no good or is their goal really to just live together and settle down in one place?
I'm still not sure why the doppels blood is the key to undoing all magic. Surely magic existed, Silas and Tessa to name examples, prior to being scattered/cursed and prior to the creation of the doppels so how is it that their blood is the key?
I do find it fascinating that the Travelers goal is to undo all magic in MF so not only will the witches' curse be lifted from them so they can congregate and live in one place but also will disintegrate the other side and revert all vampire (in MF vicinity at least) to their human dead state.
This brings up another question. Surely The Originals in NOLA are safe from travelers' plan because they are not in MF but does that mean if Bonnie, as the anchor, just left MF wouldn't that save the other side too? When Tessa created the other side it wasn't linked to MF but rather to the anchor so as long as the anchor is not in MF when all magic is lifted then wouldn't they be safe. For that matter, wouldn't all the vamps be safe if they all moved to Paris (or any place but why not go somewhere pretty)? Or maybe Bonnie and the vamps just don't know that there is a loophole (if, and a big if, I'm even understanding correctly!).
PLEASE WRITERS DO A GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING THE MYTHOLOGY! You have a few episodes left and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it'll all make sense eventually!
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Post by Ruby on Apr 26, 2014 12:20:56 GMT -5
napoli it still does not make sense to me. Supposadly the witches cursed the travelers because they noticed how powerful they were when they were together. That probably means they were taking advantage of their powers or the witches were greedy and didn't want others having too much power. They want to undo magic but why? Wouldn't they just need to undo the spell that was placed on them? W why be rid of magic in general it still doesn't add up for me. They want to make mystic falls their home but why exactly... I hope the writers are not getting ahead of themselves with this story
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Post by Kiki on Apr 26, 2014 12:31:26 GMT -5
The travellers do magic, why do they want to destroy all magic?? They'd lose their own magic, too!
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Post by napoli on Apr 26, 2014 12:50:27 GMT -5
I'm not saying I understand the full story as there are still a lot of unanswered questions but I do understand the plight of the travelers to want to find a home. Wanting to settle down and just be together is a fundamental quality we all have. To be continually displaced, whether or not it was justified by the witches, is understandably not an ideal situation. The way I understand what the travelers are trying to do is undo the curse on them with the doppel blood but it will remove all magic. They can't just choose to undo the curse so it will affect everyone including themselves but again a small price to pay if you can't even put down roots somewhere. Choosing MF is probably because that's where the doppels are and so that's where the travelers infiltrated.
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Post by Kiki on Apr 26, 2014 13:00:30 GMT -5
Another thought... it will undo all magic. Sloane's vampirestatus was undone and she was human again. What if ALL Magic is undone like this. The magic that made Bonnie the anchor, the magic that made Jeremy alive again, the magic the Gilbert ring did for Matt.....
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Post by napoli on Apr 26, 2014 13:51:30 GMT -5
Another thought... it will undo all magic. Sloane's vampirestatus was undone and she was human again. What if ALL Magic is undone like this. The magic that made Bonnie the anchor, the magic that made Jeremy alive again, the magic the Gilbert ring did for Matt..... Exactly kiki! Everyone will be dead! So this is how we know the travelers will not succeed.
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