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Post by Ruby on Oct 1, 2013 17:03:27 GMT -5
For Fans of Tyler Lockwood to discuss their fav Werwolf turned Hybrid
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Post by LA on Oct 1, 2013 17:15:14 GMT -5
Don't mind me, I'm just gonna snuggle up and make this my new home.
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Post by Ruby on Oct 1, 2013 18:20:37 GMT -5
When Season 4 started and Tyler made that whole taking one for the team type speech i thought wow this can lead to an awesome story arc for Tyler. Then it lead to his secret plan for freeing the hybrids and when they all knelt down to him as announcing him as their Alpha I was like wow thats the highlight for Tyler.
Then he gets tricked by Hayley and Klaus ends up killing his mother and he became a punk. I understand his situation feeling like he lost everything and blaming himself but after that he became a punk. running his mouth on klaus before even knowing iif he could be killed and then when he was given the chance he just ran. I didnt even hate tyler for that i hated the writers for messing up a potential awesome story for tyler.
Im definitely hoping this new story for TYler this season with helping other wolves can be a redeeming storyline for him.
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Post by LA on Oct 1, 2013 18:40:58 GMT -5
When Season 4 started and Tyler made that whole taking one for the team type speech i thought wow this can lead to an awesome story arc for Tyler. Then it lead to his secret plan for freeing the hybrids and when they all knelt down to him as announcing him as their Alpha I was like wow thats the highlight for Tyler. Then he gets tricked by Hayley and Klaus ends up killing his mother and he became a punk. I understand his situation feeling like he lost everything and blaming himself but after that he became a punk. running his mouth on klaus before even knowing iif he could be killed and then when he was given the chance he just ran. I didnt even hate tyler for that i hated the writers for messing up a potential awesome story for tyler. Im definitely hoping this new story for TYler this season with helping other wolves can be a redeeming storyline for him. I will never get over how upset I am that they ruined that story for him! Season 4 started off with a bang, and I loved every second of it, then after 4x09 they killed it, and let go of the really good storylines they had, Tyler and the hybrids, the hunters, Caroline and her torn allegiances (I really wanted to see that one play out, but nope), and instead they shoved the cure and the sirebond down our throats. A huge disappointment. As for Tyler becoming punk, his strength has always come from those around him. Back in season 1, he was a douche, no one is denying that. His father was constantly telling him what a disappointment he was, so he didn't even try. But in season 2, Caroline showed him that he could actually be better than that. He still made mistakes, but that's why I love Tyler so much, he has the best character development of the whole show. He learns from his mistakes, and tries to be better for it. After he lost everything, his pack, the last of his family, and now the big bad original hybrid wants his head on a plate, not to mention his girlfriend, yeah- he ran. Anyone else would have done the same thing. Just like Katherine did. Do I think it was a bad move to go taunting Klaus, absolutely. But that's just who Tyler is, he's impulsive, and doesn't always think things through. I am really looking forward to him coming back in season 5, but I'm not gonna lie, I am also terrified of what the writer's will do. I just don't want to see all of his growth go down the drain.
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Post by Ruby on Oct 1, 2013 19:54:39 GMT -5
i completely get that I Just feel they ruined it for me when he one..decided to execute a plan to get rid of klaus on his own. well im more upset because of Hayley. shes the root of it all for tyler's dropping the ball etc. Like I said I just want season 5 to redeem it for him. season 4 wanted to write him off and i felt making him "run" was such a low move.
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Post by LA on Oct 1, 2013 20:29:11 GMT -5
Oh, I completely agree. It was just a way to get him out of the picture- AGAIN! Seriously, I am so tired of them making Tyler leave. I hate the way they treat both Tyler and Bonnie. They had really good opportunities to show some good stuff with both of them, like Bonnie with losing her powers and Grams, and Tyler with Carol's death, but no, we just don't show them until much later. It really bothers me. Oh, don't even get me started on Hayley. I am so upset with that whole storyline. I had so many hopes for Hayley, and it still doesn't make much sense to me, and the direction they are taking it now in TO- well I just hope it gets better. I wanted her to be a real friend to Tyler, since he doesn't have a whole lot of those. I wanted her to be like his Lexi, but no they made sure to squash that. And then I wanted a storyline about the mark that Klaus noticed on her, and maybe they still will, idk. It just doesn't seem like I am gonna like the direction it's going. But yeah, I really hope that Season 5 will bring some good stuff for Tyler. He must have a guardian angel in the writer's room, because everything he has done doesn't just come out of nowhere, it's intentional. I just hope they do something with it, because if they are gonna bring him back just to screw him over again, I will not be a happy camper.
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Post by LA on Oct 3, 2013 22:38:59 GMT -5
Ok, so I am doing this here, because I already know what's coming. I haven't even ventured over to Tumblr yet, but I can already see what the Tyler tag looks like. I have already had some discussions with some of my TVD friends about it, mainly you Anna. And I told you I would go into it later, and now that The Originals is over I will do that here. So the idea that the fact that he wants to help this werewolf pack instead of going to college is bad writing is something I completely disagree with. I'm sorry Anna. Here's the thing, this is exactly the type of person that Tyler has grown to be. There was once a time when he didn't care about anyone but himself, but he's not that person anymore, and he hasn't been for a long time. He actually cares about helping other people, "people put their faith in you because you're a leader" He may not be a natural leader, but that's a whole different tirade. He may have had some selfish motives for helping the hybrids last season, but that doesn't change the fact that he helped them. At least until the huge betrayal. He genuinely cared about them, and his heart broke when he failed them. So I do not see him staying to help the pack he ran into as OOC at all. As for not joining Caroline at college, I don't see this as OOC either. Personally, I feel that the only reason he would have gone to college would have been either for his parents, or to be with his friends. So at this point the only thing for him at college is Caroline. And no, he did not give up on them. He has faith. He knows how much she loves him, and they have been separated before, and they have always come out of it. He just sees helping them as something that he has to do. "We're immortal remember?" I really think that he believes that being separated for a little while longer is not something that is gonna break them. Of course he wants to be with her, but it's not like he is abandoning her for something trivial. He's not abandoning her at all, just postponing for a little while. Am I happy about it? Of course not! I want nothing more than Tyler's return. And I really wish they would stop coming up with reasons for him to be away, but I do understand it.
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Post by Anna on Oct 3, 2013 23:22:32 GMT -5
Ok, so I am doing this here, because I already know what's coming. I haven't even ventured over to Tumblr yet, but I can already see what the Tyler tag looks like. I have already had some discussions with some of my TVD friends about it, mainly you Anna. And I told you I would go into it later, and now that The Originals is over I will do that here. So the idea that the fact that he wants to help this werewolf pack instead of going to college is bad writing is something I completely disagree with. I'm sorry Anna. Here's the thing, this is exactly the type of person that Tyler has grown to be. There was once a time when he didn't care about anyone but himself, but he's not that person anymore, and he hasn't been for a long time. He actually cares about helping other people, "people put their faith in you because you're a leader" He may not be a natural leader, but that's a whole different tirade. He may have had some selfish motives for helping the hybrids last season, but that doesn't change the fact that he helped them. At least until the huge betrayal. He genuinely cared about them, and his heart broke when he failed them. So I do not see him staying to help the pack he ran into as OOC at all. As for not joining Caroline at college, I don't see this as OOC either. Personally, I feel that the only reason he would have gone to college would have been either for his parents, or to be with his friends. So at this point the only thing for him at college is Caroline. And no, he did not give up on them. He has faith. He knows how much she loves him, and they have been separated before, and they have always come out of it. He just sees helping them as something that he has to do. "We're immortal remember?" I really think that he believes that being separated for a little while longer is not something that is gonna break them. Of course he wants to be with her, but it's not like he is abandoning her for something trivial. He's not abandoning her at all, just postponing for a little while. Am I happy about it? Of course not! I want nothing more than Tyler's return. And I really wish they would stop coming up with reasons for him to be away, but I do understand it. I meant it in the way that out of all the excuses to keep Tyler away they chose he's helping werewolves. (this has already been done before and it just frustrates me that it wasn't something more original)
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Post by LA on Oct 3, 2013 23:30:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I can agree with that. They are getting lazy when it comes to finding reasons to have him gone. But just to play devil's advocate, technically this is the first time he has stayed away to help a pack. The first time he left, it was because he had screwed up so badly he needed to deal with everything, the second time it was to break the sirebond for himself, and when he tried to help the hybrids, it didn't keep them apart. But now, I just feel like he has to think this is really important in order for him to stay gone.
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Post by Anna on Oct 4, 2013 1:17:38 GMT -5
Yeah, I can agree with that. They are getting lazy when it comes to finding reasons to have him gone. But just to play devil's advocate, technically this is the first time he has stayed away to help a pack. The first time he left, it was because he had screwed up so badly he needed to deal with everything, the second time it was to break the sirebond for himself, and when he tried to help the hybrids, it didn't keep them apart. But now, I just feel like he has to think this is really important in order for him to stay gone. If it turns out to be this whole story for Tyler than yes I won't be mad, but if they aren't going to mention it other than in passing then yeh ill be more than a little mad at them.
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Post by LA on Oct 4, 2013 1:25:00 GMT -5
Yeah, I totally agree. I was talking to a friend on tumblr, and she made a post about wanting Tyler to come back with a whole pack of werewolves, and god I cannot tell you how much I want this! Yes Please!!
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Post by Anna on Oct 4, 2013 1:29:42 GMT -5
Yeah, I totally agree. I was talking to a friend on tumblr, and she made a post about wanting Tyler to come back with a whole pack of werewolves, and god I cannot tell you how much I want this! Yes Please!! But if our fave vamps are bitten... that could mean trouble...i'm sure they don't have a stock of klaus' blood to spare.
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Post by LA on Oct 4, 2013 1:34:39 GMT -5
But if they are Tyler's pack, that really wouldn't be a concern, now would it? It still upsets me that no one ever even tried Tyler's blood. I know he's not the original hybrid, but if regular vampire's blood turns you into a vampire why wouldn't anyone ever even try to see if a regular hybrid's blood would have the same effect with curing a wolf bite.
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Post by Anna on Oct 4, 2013 1:38:41 GMT -5
But if they are Tyler's pack, that really wouldn't be a concern, now would it? It still upsets me that no one ever even tried Tyler's blood. I know he's not the original hybrid, but if regular vampire's blood turns you into a vampire why wouldn't anyone ever even try to see if a regular hybrid's blood would have the same effect with curing a wolf bite. But Tyler wouldn't willingly try to turn anyone into a hybrid if it wasn't guaranteed they'd live. But I agree with the healing. WHEN CAROLINE WAS BIT HE SHOULD HAVE TRIED!
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Post by LA on Oct 4, 2013 1:46:18 GMT -5
Oh, I know that. That's not what I was saying. I was talking strictly about the healing. I was just saying that if it doesn't take an original vampire to be able to turn anyone else into a regular vampire, then by the same token, it shouldn't take an original hybrid to heal a regular wolf bite.
YES! GOD! I cannot even begin to explain how much I wanted him to try when that happened. EITHER FREAKING TIME!!!
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