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Post by crimmyj on Dec 4, 2015 14:14:26 GMT -5
I feel like the title eludes to "broken heart" It was so devastating to see everything fall apart. It reminded me a little of Season 3 Stefan, and the moment when Klaus truly turned Stefan's humanity off and how cruel he was to the people he loved. When the darkness was in complete control. but I will say that on an entertainment scale Colin O'Donoghue is killing it as Dark Hook, because even though season 2 he had his scoundrel moments, this dark one persona is actually very different than that Hook. It will be interesting to see where they go from here. Yep, you're right it does remind me of Stefan/Klaus now that you mentioned it! That was just as brutal!!! Yes I agree Colin is killing it for sure! His impersonation of Rumple was spot on!  Colin said he had a ball doing it too. Of course the actors always have more fun playing the villain and he is definitely living it up. I have a feeling this is going to be a Buffy/Angel scenario in the finale! Since you're a fan you know exactly what I'm talking about! The S2 finale!!!  Just go ahead and gut me now and we'll call it a day!    This video is amazing and actually made me cry!!!  Season 2 Buffy/Angel(us) storyline! YES!!! nice comparison, wednesday. It should be noted that 2 of the main writers for OUaT are big time Buffy writing alums, Jane Espenson and Andrew Chambliss. so I can totally see them heading in the direction that s2 Buffy went. Angelus was cruel as hell until that point though (RIP Jenny Calender)...but yes, Emma is going to have to the the one to stop Hook. Brace yourself, its going to be painful. great storytelling, but painful as hell. |
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Post by wednesday on Dec 4, 2015 18:08:05 GMT -5
SNEAK PEEK #2 "Swan Song" 5x11
SNEAK PEEK #3 "Swan Song" 5x11
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Post by wednesday on Dec 4, 2015 18:20:11 GMT -5
Yep, you're right it does remind me of Stefan/Klaus now that you mentioned it! That was just as brutal!!! Yes I agree Colin is killing it for sure! His impersonation of Rumple was spot on! Colin said he had a ball doing it too. Of course the actors always have more fun playing the villain and he is definitely living it up. I have a feeling this is going to be a Buffy/Angel scenario in the finale! Since you're a fan you know exactly what I'm talking about! The S2 finale!!! Just go ahead and gut me now and we'll call it a day! This video is amazing and actually made me cry!!! Season 2 Buffy/Angel(us) storyline! YES!!! nice comparison, wednesday . It should be noted that 2 of the main writers for OUaT are big time Buffy writing alums, Jane Espenson and Andrew Chambliss. so I can totally see them heading in the direction that s2 Buffy went. Angelus was cruel as hell until that point though (RIP Jenny Calender)...but yes, Emma is going to have to the the one to stop Hook. Brace yourself, its going to be painful. great storytelling, but painful as hell. That's right! I forgot Jane wrote for Buffy!  And Andrew wrote for TVD so there you go! No wonder each of us thought of a Stefan/Klaus & Buffy/Angel direction!!  At least Killian hasn't killed anyone.  I'm hoping that Killian will sacrifice himself to stop the darkness and Emma won't have to kill him. To have to live with that will be devastating for her. It's already killing her that she turned him into the Dark One as it is. Like I said before, I wonder how they're going to get past this.   As horrible as this is I just thank the heavens that we aren't dealing with some horrid triangle!  I don't think I could take it!  I'm not usually into far art, but I'm almost picturing something like this if or when Killian gets tossed into the Underworld.  |
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Post by wednesday on Dec 4, 2015 20:52:18 GMT -5
Once Upon a Time: Can everyone survive the wrath of the Dark Ones?
 In the wake of Hook resurrecting every Dark One who ever lived, the residents of Storybrooke are facing the very real possibility that some may not survive the midseason finale of Once Upon a Time. During Sunday’s episode, the newly resurrected Dark Ones will set their sights on snuffing out the light for good. “That’s a whole can of worms that none of us expected even existed,” Ginnifer Goodwin tells EW. “We’ve spent five seasons fighting a Dark One, so finding out that they can all come together — they are an unstoppable force when it comes to fighting the Light Ones.” There’s just one tiny problem with the Dark Ones’ plan: They need to sacrifice a soul in order to stay in the realm of the living, which means that a number of our favorite heroes, including Snow (Goodwin), Charming (Josh Dallas), Regina (Lana Parrilla) and more are quite literally marked for death. “Once you snuff out the light, all there is is darkness,” Parrilla says. “What does that mean for everyone? All the living souls are in danger, especially because we don’t know what could happen. We all get branded, and we’re all being sent to the Underworld, so what does that mean for our future? It’s a scary fate for them.” With the situation looking grim, Gold (Robert Carlyle) advises everyone to spend their final fleeting moments with their loved ones, which is exactly what he does with Belle (Emilie de Ravin). “There’s a lovely moment in episode 11 where he genuinely thinks that’s it for everyone, because they have been marked, and the ferryman is coming to take them all to the Underworld,” Carlyle says. “He thinks that’s the end of it. He meets up with her and gives her this car and a potion to cross the town line and be unaffected by it. She’s obviously saying, ‘Why are you trying to get rid of me?’ He’s like, ‘I’m not. I just want you to have the life you’ve always wanted. You’ve wanted to see the world, you’ve wanted to experience life, and I want you to do that,’ not telling her that obviously that he and the rest of them are going to die.” However, Emma (Jennifer Morrison) refuses to give up hope, and searches for a way to rid the Darkness, which has enticingly offered up what Hook (Colin O’Donoghue) wants the most. “Hook is facing an internal struggle,” executive producer Edward Kitsis says. “For Hook, the thing that he coveted most in the world was revenge, and that would be revenge on Rumple. The real question is: Is he willing to sacrifice everyone else in his life to get revenge? The roles are reversed because now it is up to Emma to save him.” “She feels incredibly guilty that she’s responsible for everything going astray,” Morrison says. “She knows that even though her intentions were good, a lot of terrible things have happened because of it. Now her son’s life is threatened. That’s the big thing that gets Emma every time. Even when she chose to take on the Darkness in the first place at the end of season 4, her decision to give herself up was: “Yes, Regina’s in danger, everyone’s in danger, but my son’s in danger.” Every decision for Emma since she’s been reunited with Henry goes back to her concern for him and never wanting to have to be separated from him and never wanting to hurt him again. Now, as the Dark One, she made choices to hurt him, which is devastating. Her family is in danger, including Henry, because of the choices she’s made. She’s in such a deep well of guilt and will do anything she can to make it right.” www.ew.com/article/2015/12/04/once-upon-time-midseason-finale-spoilers-hook-dark-one
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Post by wednesday on Dec 4, 2015 21:01:37 GMT -5
Once Upon a Time: Rachel Shelley to return
 Rachel Shelley will reprise her role as Milah in the second half of the season, EW has learned exclusively. The L Word alum made her debut in the second season as the mother of Baelfire (Michael Raymond-James) and the wife of Rumplestiltskin (Robert Carlyle), who left the coward for the adventurous pirate Hook (Colin O’Donoghue). When Rumple became the Dark One, he ripped Milah’s heart out, leading to the centuries-long feud between the men. Details on her return are being kept under wraps, but Shelley joins other previously announced OUAT alums returning, including Barbara Hershey, Giancarlo Esposito, Robbie Kay, Victoria Smurfit, Emma Caulfield and Tony Perez. Shelley won’t appear in the 100th, but in at least one episode sometime during the second half of the season. www.ew.com/article/2015/12/04/once-upon-time-rachel-shelley-milah-return
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Post by wednesday on Dec 6, 2015 19:26:28 GMT -5
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Post by wednesday on Dec 7, 2015 2:09:35 GMT -5
PROMO "Souls of the Departed" 5x12
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Post by wednesday on Dec 7, 2015 2:12:15 GMT -5
Once Upon a Time stars on that heartbreaking twist
Once Upon a Time took a shocking turn in the midseason finale when a series regular met a grim fate — but fear not, EW is here to quell your fears. After Hook (Colin O’Donoghue) resurrected all the old Dark Ones in order to snuff out the light, a number of Storybrooke residents were marked for death, forcing Emma (Jennifer Morrison) to take drastic measures in a bid to save the town. But it was Hook who ultimately stepped up in the end. Finally choosing family over revenge, Hook decided to take on all the Darkness and sacrifice himself to save the ones he loves. That’s right, Hook’s dead, but — twist! — O’Donoghue isn’t going anywhere. “It’s complicated, because we’re going to the Underworld for the second part of the season,” the actor tells EW. “He’s sticking around, but in a completely different way and quite shocking.” Despite that good news, Hook’s death was still a roller coaster of emotions, especially considering that Emma was the one to drive Excalibur through him in the end. “She doesn’t have a lot of time to think about it,” Morrison says. “She’s put in a situation where she has to make a decision in the moment. After what she went through — she thought she was doing the right thing by saving his life, even though he said not to, and then she realized there were all these repercussions to it. She realized how much it hurt him that she didn’t believe him that he meant to just let him go instead of turning Dark again. When she’s faced with that same decision again, she has to make the decision she knows he would want her to make. It’s one of those heartbreaking things where the decision that represents love is actually just terrifying.” Though their relationship has been tenuous at best this season, Hook and Emma were able to resolve their love before his death. “By the time she has to drive Excalibur through him, they have a whole exchange of him getting to a place where he’s able to overcome the Darkness within himself in that moment to admit his truth,” Morrison says. “She’s been fighting to believe that — and it’s confirmed in the way that he then says, ‘I do want to be this man and I am truly the man that I fought to be for you’ — her belief that he did still love her, that it was just the Darkness that had taken over him that was pushing him to do these things, her belief in that is confirmed in that moment.” However, Hook’s sacrifice is in vain as Emma realizes that Gold (Robert Carlyle) deceived them all and is once again the Dark One. “It wasn’t all in vain in the sense that their love for each other is real,” Morrison notes. “Ultimately, it all comes full circle to them standing before each other knowing that their love for each other is real. But in terms of her trying to control the outcome, it is in vain. The overriding lesson is that she needs to let go and not try to control everything anymore.” Regardless of how it went down, Hook still “feels like a hero,” O’Donoghue says. “He does it for the greater good, even though he was the architect of all the problems. He does it for love, and I think that makes him feel like he is, in some way, a hero, and proving himself to Emma and to the other people of Storybrooke.” Now the problem lies in saving Hook from the Underworld — oh hey, that’s why all those familiar and long-dead characters like Cora (Barbara Hershey), Peter Pan (Robbie Kay), Cruella de Vil (Victoria Smurfit) and Milah (Rachel Shelley) are slated to return in the second half of the season! “In the immediacy of him sacrificing himself before she knows about Gold, Emma is in a state of shock and she’s trying to figure out what to do, and doesn’t know if there is a way to get to him,” Morrison says. “The weird thing about finding out that Gold is the Dark One again is that she’s furious at him, but at the same time, she now has a way to Hook. If he were not the Dark One, she would not have a way to Hook. As much as she’s furious at him, she also is grateful in a weird way that this is giving her a second chance at saving the man that she loves.” Once Upon a Time returns Sunday, March 6 at 8 p.m. ET on ABC. Stay tuned for much more scoop on what’s in store for the gang in the Underworld! www.ew.com/article/2015/12/07/once-upon-time-hook-death-underworld
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Post by wednesday on Dec 7, 2015 22:17:05 GMT -5
Once Upon a Time' Bosses Discuss "Unfinished Business" in Underworld, Potential Rumbelle Baby
 Co-creators Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis talk to THR about Emma’s mission to find Hook, the rules of the underworld and characters making a comeback in the second half. Hell hath no fury like a Savior scorned. In Once Upon a Time’s winter finale, Emma (Jennifer Morrison) was forced to kill her love, Hook (Colin O’Donoghue), to save Storybrooke from the underworld, but in a huge twist, she ended up going down there anyway. Once she discovered that Rumplestiltskin (Robert Carlyle) channeled all of the Dark Ones’ magic into himself, she demanded that he take her down to the underworld to save Hook, and in the final moments of the finale, the whole gang — including Mary Margaret (Ginnifer Goodwin), David (Josh Dallas), Regina (Lana Parrilla), Robin Hood (Sean Maguire), and Rumple — headed on a rescue mission. THR spoke with co-creators Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis to discuss the second half of the season, and they revealed details about Emma’s quest for Hook, the familiar face ruling the underworld, and if characters like Zelena will be returning next year. Plus, the bosses also break their silence on whether star Emilie de Ravin’s pregnancy may be written into the show now that Rumple and Belle have rekindled their love. The underworld looks just like Storybrooke. Is this something that changes for whoever goes into it, or is that just what the realm looks like?Adam Horowitz: What the underworld is and why it looks the way it does is a part of our storytelling coming up. So while we don’t want to spoil it, we can say that there is a very specific reason why it looks like Storybrooke, and it has to do with some of the folks we’re gonna meet down there. Are only evil people in the underworld? It’s like hell, right?
Horowitz: It’s not hell. The underworld isn’t hell — it is a place between. It’s the place for people with unfinished business, so it’s not about good or evil. Eddy Kitsis: The second half is a lot about them getting closure on their pasts and how the past comes to haunt you. There are also going to be some new characters in the second half of the season: Hercules, Meg and maybe Hades. Will that be separate from the underworld or intertwined?
Kitsis: That is kind of in it. We’re going to meet some new people in the underworld, but I think a lot of what people are going to see — kind of in honor of the 100th episode in our fifth year — is really seeing a lot of people from our past who we haven’t seen in awhile. For Emma’s journey, is the biggest battle trying to find Hook in the underworld or fighting against the people from everyone’s pasts to get to him?
Horowitz: It’s going to be a bunch of things. It’s not just about finding Hook, it’s about what happens when Emma and all of our characters enter this realm and have to face things both from their past and present. It will hopefully be an exploration of our characters and how they react to facing things you never thought you were going to face. If someone is stabbed in the underworld, are they dead forever? Is that something they can come back from?
Horowitz: That’s actually a great question, and the rules of the underworld — what it means to be there, whether you can leave, how you can leave, where you go ... Kitsis: ... Are going to be explained by our favorite, favorite tour guide of the underworld, and her name is Cora. Is Cora the mayor of the underworld? She was sitting in Regina’s chair, so is it safe to assume there?
Kitsis: That is safe to assume. She definitely has the place — well, she understands the place, yeah. Is Hook the same guy that Emma fell in love with now that the darkness was purged from him? Now that he’s in the underworld, has he changed at all?
Horowitz: I would say he’s gone through a lot, as has Emma, as have all of them, so no one’s the same. But if you’re asking if he’s still dark, then no — that was handled in the finale. Kitsis: Yes, all of the darkness was given to Gold. Did Rumple make this plan thinking that Belle would be gone forever and it was OK for him to be dark now that she was exploring the world? Or did he know his plan would work and think maybe she would come back?
Kitsis: I think when he said goodbye to her, he really did it so she wouldn’t have to see what happens to him and everyone else. He wanted her to be safe from the darkness. It was a very genuine moment. And then what happened was a crime of opportunity where he saw a way to no longer have to die and go to the underworld, and I think in a lot of ways, what Hook was saying in the opening was that he loves that dagger and it’s a part of him. It’s clear that Rumple and Belle rekindled their relationship. Are you considering writing in Emilie de Ravin’s pregnancy now?
Kitsis: I would say it certainly looked like they re-consummated their marriage, so we’ll just have to wait and see, but I would say you’re definitely on the right clue trail. What kind of powers does Rumple have versus his old ones? Are they just magnified by all of the Dark Ones, or is it a new kind of magic?
Kitsis: I think he definitely has all of the powers of those Dark Ones and he’s emerged stronger and probably even a little wiser. Very dangerous. Have we seen the last of Zelena?
Horowitz: No, we have not seen the last of Zelena. Kitsis: Absolutely not! You can’t keep a good witch down, and that has been the theme of this show since the beginning. Is that something that will be explored post-underworld, or will that be intertwined?
Kitsis: It will be soon, and we will see her return. Maybe not after the first couple episodes next year, but we’re going to see her in the middle and then she’ll be a large part of the second arc. With Regina and Robin and Zelena’s baby, if they do get back to Storybrooke, will they co-parent the child?
Kitsis: It’s tough, because every time they lead Zelena in, she certainly seems to not want to play ball. Last week’s episode, they were ready to share custody so she could see her [daughter], and when she thought they were going to die, she turned on them. I think there’s a lot of family dynamic to work out there. Are Regina and Robin ready to just raise that baby now that Zelena’s gone?
Horowitz: I think there are some really pressing issues that are complicating all of the family dynamics, and part of the second half of the season will be untangling all of that. What about Arthur? Is he gone, or will we see him come back?
Kitsis: There’s potential. We know there’s still Arthur and Merida and Guinevere in Storybrooke, so we may see them a little bit at the end of the year, but not for a while. Will Mulan and Ruby come back to Storybrooke if the gang makes it back?
Kitsis: Yeah, we are going to see Mulan and Ruby. We will see them in the second half of the season. Will we see Hook’s half brother come into play? He was briefly mentioned when Hook killed his father in flashbacks.
Horowitz: You mean Liam 2? (Laughs.) Kitsis: I can tell you we will definitely see Liam 1, but whether we see Liam 2 is up in the air. Is everyone on board with Emma’s plan as a team effort, or is she going to go on a solo mission to save Hook?
Kitsis: I think it’s a team effort. Everyone is going with the anticipation of that Emma has a plan, we’re all going to go together, we’re gonna go in there, grab Hook, split the heart, and get out. It won’t be that easy, though.
Kitsis: It never is! But the best intentions. The road to hell is paved with the best intentions. You put Emma through a lot. Every love interest she’s had has died. Do you see true love in Emma’s future, whether it’s with Hook, or if she’ll have to move on and find someone new who doesn’t die?
Kitsis: I’ll tell you what — I think that is going to have to be a question she has to solve. The reason she is going down there is for that very reason. She finally lowered that wall and let Hook in, so she doesn’t want to lose another person who she loves. So echoing her father’s line, "I will always find you," and I think come hell or high water, she’s gonna try. Once Upon a Time returns Sunday, March 6 at 8 p.m. on ABC.
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Post by wednesday on Dec 7, 2015 22:49:46 GMT -5
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Post by wednesday on Dec 7, 2015 23:22:19 GMT -5
crimmyj Ok Now I'll try to actually gather my thoughts! I thought even though the episode was utterly heartbreaking it was very good. I totally called it and they pulled a Buffy which for some reason had viewers outraged. I thought both Jennifer and Colin did a great job because they certainly had me in tears!  I just knew Killian couldn't bear to stand by and watch Emma be hurt. It was weird hearing Regina of all people calling Hook Killian trying to get through to him. I felt so bad for him because of his father. It was sad that he'd killed him, but I could understand why he did it. Talk about feeling betrayed and abandoned. I wonder what happened to Liam#2?  I think this was the first time I actually liked Snow in I can't remember how long. Boy Killian pegged Rumple BIG time in the beginning of the episode because I didn't see that twist coming at the end, but really we shouldn't have been surprised because deep down that's who he's always been and sadly that's who he'll always be. Killian is right, he'll always love being the Dark One and having power more than Belle. Poor Belle. I hate to think of her being dumb and clueless all over again and everyone else being in on the secret. And Killian dying for nothing technically. What did you think of the last scene with Emma going after him? I wish she would've said Killian, I'll always find you. She's been calling him that for the past several episodes and calling him Hook now just didn't feel quite the same. I think calling him Killian makes things more intimate between them. I wonder how they're going to fix the mess with Arthur, Guinevere and Merida. What the heck happened to Maleficent and Lily? Did they fall off the planet? The writers are actually thinking of following through with a Rumbelle baby! I don't like that at all! I was really hoping we'd never see Zelena again, but unfortunately she'll be returning later on. I'm looking forward to them rescuing our favorite pirate and seeing Peter Pan again!  gclm I know you aren't a fan of Capt. Swan so I'll spare you to answer any questions on what you thought of those parts,  but what did you think of the rest with Rumple?  What did you think about the episode tara?
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Post by wednesday on Dec 7, 2015 23:53:22 GMT -5
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Post by wednesday on Dec 7, 2015 23:56:18 GMT -5
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Post by wednesday on Dec 7, 2015 23:59:07 GMT -5
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Post by crimmyj on Dec 8, 2015 22:25:45 GMT -5
crimmyj Ok Now I'll try to actually gather my thoughts! I thought even though the episode was utterly heartbreaking it was very good. I totally called it and they pulled a Buffy which for some reason had viewers outraged. I thought both Jennifer and Colin did a great job because they certainly had me in tears! I just knew Killian couldn't bear to stand by and watch Emma be hurt. It was weird hearing Regina of all people calling Hook Killian trying to get through to him. I felt so bad for him because of his father. It was sad that he'd killed him, but I could understand why he did it. Talk about feeling betrayed and abandoned. I wonder what happened to Liam#2? I think this was the first time I actually liked Snow in I can't remember how long. Boy Killian pegged Rumple BIG time in the beginning of the episode because I didn't see that twist coming at the end, but really we shouldn't have been surprised because deep down that's who he's always been and sadly that's who he'll always be. Killian is right, he'll always love being the Dark One and having power more than Belle. Poor Belle. I hate to think of her being dumb and clueless all over again and everyone else being in on the secret. And Killian dying for nothing technically. What did you think of the last scene with Emma going after him? I wish she would've said Killian, I'll always find you. She's been calling him that for the past several episodes and calling him Hook now just didn't feel quite the same. I think calling him Killian makes things more intimate between them. I wonder how they're going to fix the mess with Arthur, Guinevere and Merida. What the heck happened to Maleficent and Lily? Did they fall off the planet? The writers are actually thinking of following through with a Rumbelle baby! I don't like that at all! I was really hoping we'd never see Zelena again, but unfortunately she'll be returning later on. I'm looking forward to them rescuing our favorite pirate and seeing Peter Pan again! gclm I know you aren't a fan of Capt. Swan so I'll spare you to answer any questions on what you thought of those parts, but what did you think of the rest with Rumple? What did you think about the episode tara ? I was totally thinking about you this episode. I think I actually said out loud "wednesday called it! Bangel Season 2" I wonder if that comparison will continue on when they find him? Like will he be a little crazed at first. Other than feeling devastated for our babies, you are right it was a really good episode. Colin was excellent. Sure I'm biased, but I think there is a reason why they kept his character on the show even though he really wasn't supposed to last long (very much like Spike on Buffy...a character whom Jane Espensen had a real fondness to write) his chemistry with all the characters on the show was just so effortless. Oh Rumple.... it makes me feel so awful for Belle. Its like when you love a drug addict who just can't give it up for you or even the betterment of themselves. Love all the gifs. CS are just so giffable! |
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