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Post by katvolley13 on Jan 12, 2014 11:57:27 GMT -5
I would not like it at all so I think the body swap is happening Nina has pretty much disclosed it. Sent from my MB886 using proboards I agree with you katvolley13, I don't like the body swap with Elena unless it brings Stelena closer together. I think this will be the case . Enough with the polls let's get back to the story. Sent from my MB886 using proboards
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Post by shoe20 on Jan 12, 2014 12:01:26 GMT -5
I would not like it at all so I think the body swap is happening Nina has pretty much disclosed it. Sent from my MB886 using proboards I agree with you katvolley13, I don't like the body swap with Elena unless it brings Stelena closer together. The other possibility for Kat is obviously Nadia...which is supported by the spoiler (Nadia/Matt strange talk)....this would also generate good SLs of mother/daughter getting to know each other. =) We'll see. On the countdown, girls....almost back....4 days.
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Post by stelena4ever on Jan 12, 2014 13:27:38 GMT -5
I agree with you katvolley13, I don't like the body swap with Elena unless it brings Stelena closer together. The other possibility for Kat is obviously Nadia...which is supported by the spoiler (Nadia/Matt strange talk)....this would also generate good SLs of mother/daughter getting to know each other. =) We'll see. On the countdown, girls....almost back....4 days. Sorry to burst your bubble shoe20, the show comes back on January 23 not 16th. Sorry.
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Post by napoli on Jan 15, 2014 21:31:25 GMT -5
Ok napoli, katvolley13, Kiki, and Ruby......this is my official last guess on the upcoming direction of the SL. Damon's going dark ..... Elena is going to be the vessel for Katherine. Here's how I see it going 1. Damon and Elena make up at the beginning of the 100th (soulful talk and smooching) 2. Elena is enlisted to be the vessel for Katherine by Nadia. 3. Damon goes to hospital to check on Elena, and finds who he thinks is her in a lip lock with Stefan as Katherine is in control and thanking Stefan for his help. 4. Damon thinking Elena has gone back to Stefan, turn off his switch and goes dark. 5. Elena will enlist Stefan to try and save Damon. (mirror image of S 3) This scenario will give a path for all characters to proceed, without giving resolving any of the triangle issues. (which is what TVD always strives for.) I'm officially on record. =) The writers do love parallel SL's and having Elena and Stefan work together to save Damon would be a nice comparison with s3. We've already seen Stefan keep his respectful distance from Elena so I'm sure we'll continue to see Stefan do the same. I have a feeling DE aren't over yet either. Just as in s3 when Stefan went dark Elena didn't turn against him I don't think Elena will turn from Damon even if he turns dark(er). She was accepting of Damon's active serial killer status against the Whitmores so it will take much more to break DE.
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Post by stelena4ever on Jan 15, 2014 21:45:23 GMT -5
Ok napoli, katvolley13, Kiki, and Ruby......this is my official last guess on the upcoming direction of the SL. Damon's going dark ..... Elena is going to be the vessel for Katherine. Here's how I see it going 1. Damon and Elena make up at the beginning of the 100th (soulful talk and smooching) 2. Elena is enlisted to be the vessel for Katherine by Nadia. 3. Damon goes to hospital to check on Elena, and finds who he thinks is her in a lip lock with Stefan as Katherine is in control and thanking Stefan for his help. 4. Damon thinking Elena has gone back to Stefan, turn off his switch and goes dark. 5. Elena will enlist Stefan to try and save Damon. (mirror image of S 3) This scenario will give a path for all characters to proceed, without giving resolving any of the triangle issues. (which is what TVD always strives for.) I'm officially on record. =) The writers do love parallel SL's and having Elena and Stefan work together to save Damon would be a nice comparison with s3. We've already seen Stefan keep his respectful distance from Elena so I'm sure we'll continue to see Stefan do the same. I have a feeling DE aren't over yet either. Just as in s3 when Stefan went dark Elena didn't turn against him I don't think Elena will turn from Damon even if he turns dark(er). She was accepting of Damon's active serial killer status against the Whitmores so it will take much more to break DE. I don't think the Whitmore killings will break de but it will definatly put a strain on them. I have to think Elena won't completely accept it.
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Post by Kiki on Jan 16, 2014 0:34:21 GMT -5
The writers do love parallel SL's and having Elena and Stefan work together to save Damon would be a nice comparison with s3. We've already seen Stefan keep his respectful distance from Elena so I'm sure we'll continue to see Stefan do the same. I have a feeling DE aren't over yet either. Just as in s3 when Stefan went dark Elena didn't turn against him I don't think Elena will turn from Damon even if he turns dark(er). She was accepting of Damon's active serial killer status against the Whitmores so it will take much more to break DE. I don't think the Whitmore killings will break de but it will definatly put a strain on them. I have to think Elena won't completely accept it. i agree. the whitmore killings were just a setback in her making him a better man. he lied to her again about his REFORMED serialkiller status but like always she will not mind. but this time enzo will work against her. lets see who will change damon now.
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Post by stelena4ever on Jan 16, 2014 10:22:29 GMT -5
I don't think the Whitmore killings will break de but it will definatly put a strain on them. I have to think Elena won't completely accept it. i agree. the whitmore killings were just a setback in her making him a better man. he lied to her again about his REFORMED serialkiller status but like always she will not mind. but this time enzo will work against her. lets see who will change damon now. If Damon has not changed by now then he will never change. Damon likes killing people, if he didn't he would not have killed all those Whitmore's, the last one about 5 months ago.
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Post by Kiki on Jan 16, 2014 11:03:40 GMT -5
i agree. the whitmore killings were just a setback in her making him a better man. he lied to her again about his REFORMED serialkiller status but like always she will not mind. but this time enzo will work against her. lets see who will change damon now. If Damon has not changed by now then he will never change. Damon likes killing people, if he didn't he would not have killed all those Whitmore's, the last one about 5 months ago. I am the last one to be on Damon's side but... well he once told Klaus that if he is bad he is always bad for a reason. And Damon might be selfish and his actions are uncontrolled and not thought throuhg sometimes but I doubt he would kill all those Whitmores without a reason - a better reason than vengeance - Maybe there is more to it
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Post by Ruby on Jan 16, 2014 14:50:53 GMT -5
unpopular theory!
Now why in the world we have all these random Matt and Nadia Interactions in the upcoming episodes? What if Katherine is thrown into Matt's body?
A) Why would Matt want to impulsively throw a Party B) Why would tyler grow suspicious of his relationship with nadia?
That would definitely be a twist we do not see coming lol
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Post by Kiki on Jan 16, 2014 14:53:19 GMT -5
unpopular theory! Now why in the world we have all these random Matt and Nadia Interactions in the upcoming episodes? What if Katherine is thrown into Matt's body? A) Why would Matt want to impulsively throw a Party B) Why would tyler grow suspicious of his relationship with nadia? That would definitely be a twist we do not see coming lol I'll take every option but Elena. Because Katherine in Elena's body is too predictable. Katherine in a male body would be kind of hilarious though
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Post by katvolley13 on Jan 17, 2014 8:14:38 GMT -5
If Damon has not changed by now then he will never change. Damon likes killing people, if he didn't he would not have killed all those Whitmore's, the last one about 5 months ago. I am the last one to be on Damon's side but... well he once told Klaus that if he is bad he is always bad for a reason. And Damon might be selfish and his actions are uncontrolled and not thought throuhg sometimes but I doubt he would kill all those Whitmores without a reason - a better reason than vengeance - Maybe there is more to it In his mind this is a reason. He feels this is terrible and felt victimized so he wants to victimize the family to keep the Augustine society from happening. Sent from my MB886 using proboards
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Post by Ruby on Jan 17, 2014 10:46:59 GMT -5
I am the last one to be on Damon's side but... well he once told Klaus that if he is bad he is always bad for a reason. And Damon might be selfish and his actions are uncontrolled and not thought throuhg sometimes but I doubt he would kill all those Whitmores without a reason - a better reason than vengeance - Maybe there is more to it In his mind this is a reason. He feels this is terrible and felt victimized so he wants to victimize the family to keep the Augustine society from happening. Sent from my MB886 using proboards Me I'm on his side as well. He was locked up for over five years being experimented ok and tortured. Although this is cruel it's his form of revenge abs ab evil twist to it. He should've been just looking for the experiment in general but he probably figured it was a family business
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Post by napoli on Jan 17, 2014 11:48:06 GMT -5
In his mind this is a reason. He feels this is terrible and felt victimized so he wants to victimize the family to keep the Augustine society from happening. Sent from my MB886 using proboards Me I'm on his side as well. He was locked up for over five years being experimented ok and tortured. Although this is cruel it's his form of revenge abs ab evil twist to it. He should've been just looking for the experiment in general but he probably figured it was a family business Except thart is not part of the story line. The writers have made it clear that Damon believed the experiments were over when he killed the original Whitmore in the 50's. This is why he didn't warn Elena about anything sinister at Whitmore or even mention it when Elena told Damon about Wes telling her and her vampire friends to leave. The writers were setting it up so that the revelation of Damon killing current Whitmores and leaving one alive just so he could continue killing future Whitmores was to show how evil Damon is right now for the sake of being bad versus bad with purpose. This isn't a Damon rant but rather just a coomment on what has been revealed in the past few episodes. By saying that Damon knew the current Whitmores were involved in vampire experimentation is rewriting what has actually been presented. The writers are finally going somewhere with Damon's story line and like they did with Stefan and now with Elena and Damon it will get darker before it gets resolved.
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Post by Kiki on Jan 17, 2014 12:02:26 GMT -5
The writers were setting it up so that the revelation of Damon killing current Whitmores and leaving one alive just so he could continue killing future Whitmores was to show how evil Damon is right now for the sake of being bad versus bad with purpose. That's it exactly! If Damon would have wanted to make sure no Whitmore will ever do this to any vampire again he would have just killed all Whitmores at once and the whole family would have been eradicated and with them all danger. But the fact that he left one alive so he could continue to kill members of this family shows how evil it is. Still I think there could be another purpose for this. Damon is bad but only for a reason or because of an immediate reaction. This was a well thought through plan so it's not an immediate reaction that's why I think there is more than just vengeance behind all this. As bad as Damon is I don't think he would kill just for the fun of killing. So far he killed because of an immediate overreaction (Jeremy, Alaric) or because it helps with his plan (Lexie, Mr. Tanner) or to save himself or the ones he loves.... but what does he get from killing innocent Whitmores who he doesn't even know? And why did he only kill Whitmores? Elena's Dad wasn't a Whitmore and he worked on the experiments, too. Or did he kill him, too?
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Post by katvolley13 on Jan 18, 2014 11:03:07 GMT -5
What I am intriqued about is the biggest twist ever??
This has to be way bigger than
Some other reason for Damon killing whitmores Elena's father being alive and working with the society Stefen doppelganger being Katherine's baby daddy Stefen having traveler in him Okay people what other crazy theories
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