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Post by crimmyj on Oct 17, 2015 12:48:48 GMT -5
Or its just a ridiculous plot device/retcon of Stefan's past to tie one of our leads to one of the Heretics. It would have made more sense to use Damon because he was older and therefore more experienced. And it would have made him more interesting than just whiny drunken protector of Elena's casket.
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Post by shoe20 on Oct 17, 2015 13:53:45 GMT -5
Or its just a ridiculous plot device/retcon of Stefan's past to tie one of our leads to one of the Heretics. It would have made more sense to use Damon because he was older and therefore more experienced. And it would have made him more interesting than just whiny drunken protector of Elena's casket. I don't mean to correct you crimmy, but shouldn't that be: "whiny drunken failed protector of Elena's casket."
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Post by shoe20 on Oct 17, 2015 14:46:10 GMT -5
I might be the only one but I loved the first 2 episodes. No more Delena drama but a lot of mystery to think about. Better not give us dead ends to all the mythology again. I'll take a shot Kiki so if Stefan is not Caroline's future fiance who is it then? It's Hanna the vampire huntress (ep12 intro) I hope she has a great costume, cape is optional. I'm thinking red leather with a stake holsters.... heels of course (female heros always run faster in heels) What is this Phoenix stone doing? Wake up dead people but only as long as they touch it? So it can only wake up one? It puts and X on ya and animates the dead....Alaric probably has a plan to turn it into pebbles... What about the 6th Heretic? I'm guessing he's the blind one and couldn't find MF.... Beau's the mute, but I'm not sure which one is hard of hearing. Why did Stefan never mention his first love? And why doesn't he recognize her now? pretty sure that's a coyote thing Stefan and Caroline not being able to touch each other is the relationship problem Julie was talking about??? Ok that's an interesting turn This is an early Christmas present from CD. Elena in a coffin under water is a nice turn, too. Makes her feel like Stefan My first thought too.... I hope if she comes to Stefan for PTSD help, he tells her to just be happy, He's had the best 60yrs of his life. Do you think CD is ripping off Italian Mob movies? "She sleeps with the fishes"
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Post by deb on Oct 18, 2015 10:55:36 GMT -5
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Post by demetra on Oct 18, 2015 14:19:35 GMT -5
deb, thanks for posting. Couple of nice belly laughs!
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Post by crimmyj on Oct 18, 2015 15:43:08 GMT -5
These recaps really highlight how bad the storyline is. Too freakin' funny.
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Post by Kiki on Oct 18, 2015 22:40:27 GMT -5
These recaps really highlight how bad the storyline is. Too freakin' funny. After just 2 episodes I find it difficult to already judge the whole storyline. I like what I saw so far. Lots of things to guess about and no more delena drama. It's not as good as it used to be but still better than many other shows.
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Post by crimmyj on Oct 19, 2015 0:44:08 GMT -5
These recaps really highlight how bad the storyline is. Too freakin' funny. After just 2 episodes I find it difficult to already judge the whole storyline. I like what I saw so far. Lots of things to guess about and no more delena drama. It's not as good as it used to be but still better than many other shows. Its not that difficult to surmise where the storylines are going based and the formulaic and regurgitated plot devices they are using. And the nonsensical breakdowns of their own mythology. It is nowhere near as good as it used to be, and of all the shows I keep up with it is probably the worst one I watch (in which I do so out of weird loyalty), including several from their own network which is why it is frustrating that the writers can't get out of their own way. I was hoping this season would be a reboot and offer something fresh, so far its just knock off versions of some of the series greatest hits/plots.
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Post by Evers17 on Oct 19, 2015 23:59:17 GMT -5
so if Stefan is not Caroline's future fiance who is it then? What is this Phoenix stone doing? Wake up dead people but only as long as they touch it? So it can only wake up one? What about the 6th Heretic? Why did Stefan never mention his first love? And why doesn't he recognize her now? Stefan and Caroline not being able to touch each other is the relationship problem Julie was talking about??? Ok that's an interesting turn Elena in a coffin under water is a nice turn, too. Makes her feel like Stefan I might be the only one but I loved the first 2 episodes. No more Delena drama but a lot of mystery to think about. Better not give us dead ends to all the mythology again. Yeah that's intriguing the Caroline plot line, has a job, fiancé and doesn't want to talk to Stefan... Guess she wasNt Stefan's soulmate either i guess regarding the Phoenix stone more will be revealed and I'm sure it'll cause big trouble in little china (or mystic falls rather) since Lilly is trying to get her hands on it too.... Seriously zombie Jo might shake things up a bit. Tho there's no human brains to eat apart from Matt and Bonnie..... i dont think Valerie was a first love for Stefan (could be wrong but surely she wasn't) his diary more implied that they only spoke for a moment but she may be the most wonderful girl He ever met (hey teenage boy easily impressed haha) .... Will be interesting to see how that all unfolds especially with Caroline's skin being all vervained. Not that I'm big on the Steroline train but Valen (hey it's the best I could do) doesn't really excite me either.... im not sure about the Enzo/Bonnie thing as he seems pretty into crazy pants Lilly. As Enzo said he's not there for her "family" he's there for her... Maybe Bonnie and Alaric bond while trying to resurrect Jo (ick!) or there is Matt. That fella needs a bit of loving. It's been a while for ole blue eyes
i'm sorta enjoying this season so far too - it's got me intrigued and I seriously want to know who the chick is in the future shooting stakes at everyone it's buffy!!!! Come to sort them all out once n for all haha
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Post by Kiki on Oct 20, 2015 9:49:19 GMT -5
Thank you @evers17 good to know someone likes this season, too.
I'm even not so much against Steroline anymore. At least right now she only loves him and if you look closesly she always had a soft spot for him as far back as season 1 episode 1 while Elena always had an eye on Damon even when she was in love with Stefan.
Bonnie and Enzo.. not sure about that. Enzo was introduced as bad guy, don't know where he stands right now but I would like to see Bonnie in a position like in season 1 where she kept the bad guys (mostly Damon) in check. Making out with them doesn't suit her. And although Bonnie with Damon is fun to watch I'm not a fan of Bamon either for the same reason.
The Phoenix stone has to be something about rebirth. In Greek mythology Phoenix was a bird that died by burning and was reborn from it's ashes over and over again. So I guess that's what the stone will do. Leaves the question how and with which consequences. Curious about that.
I don't think Valerie and Stefan really had a thing. If so Stefan would have mentioned her or at least remembered her when he saw her. But given the Phoenix mythology and the doppelgängers... maybe Stefan is/was a Phoenix and lived before? And maybe something in the Phoenix theory went wrong and that's how the Doppelgängers were created? Ok, that's a long theory. But I wouldn't be surprised if we'd see the doppelgängers come into play once more.
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Post by Kiki on Oct 20, 2015 13:41:32 GMT -5
So Stefan did recognize Valery Hm... and why the hell did Lily send her to him? ? Ugh... I'm soooo curious
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Post by demetra on Oct 21, 2015 21:24:03 GMT -5
So Stefan did recognize Valery Hm... and why the hell did Lily send her to him????? Ugh... I'm soooo curious WHHHHHHAAATTT?!
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