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Post by Ruby on Oct 16, 2014 18:58:08 GMT -5
THIS IS A DEBATES AREA THREAD PLEASE READ BELOW lets come together to share our thoughts about tonight's episode! =) All TVD Fans Welcomed including Exclusive Ship fans lol Lets discuss:
What did you Like? What you did not like? What was your favorite scene/quote? What scene was the most shocking to you or caught you off guard?
ONLY RULES* When replying to someone's response please BE POLITE AND AVOID BEING RUDE TO SOMEONE'S OPINION. =) You can nicely state why you might disagree without saying "well you're wrong" or "I dont like your opinion" Lets stick to the episode topic xoxo
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2014 21:17:01 GMT -5
I loved this episode, it blew me away, I was hanging on my seat with anxiety for what comes...and when the episode ended I was so disappointed that 42 minutes were over, yes!!!
More tomorrow, because it is 4 in the morning here.
I have to rewatch all three episodes. TVD is back!!! yay!!!
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Post by lilmisskay on Oct 16, 2014 23:07:10 GMT -5
Wow. I feel like TVD is back the way it used to be. I never seen anything like this coming. I knew Bonnie would get her powers back, I never expected it the way it happened. I'm still not on board with the whole Damon and Bonnie being a couple, but at least this shows that they cared about each other. I have a feeling that it's a bad idea to trust Kai. I think he's the new show villain. Hopefully he sticks around, unlike the last villain. I hate to what had happened to Enzo. I doubt he will get killed. I knew that the compulsion thing will come to an issue. I love how they mentioned that. Hopefully there won't be too many plot holes in this season.
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Post by Kiki on Oct 16, 2014 23:37:27 GMT -5
I feel like TVD is slowly going back to it's old quality. now that Delena is removed we see the other characters again and a storyline is developing. I love to do guessing games again. But please stopp killing all new characters after 2 episodes. I hate to guess what their storylines will be only to see them dead the next episode. And I cannot get into this Stefan & Caroline lovestory. But well... you cannot have everything
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Post by katvolley13 on Oct 16, 2014 23:42:30 GMT -5
I think stefen and enzo planned that if stefen was going to kill him he would have done it himself. It is obvious to create mystery to stefens character. Hopefully. Stefen is not just going to let vampire hunter kill all people he cares about and he got to shoot enzo bonus. Watch I bet a dollar.
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Post by aliensoul13 on Oct 17, 2014 3:26:10 GMT -5
I was cheering for Tripp when he stuck that needle in Enzo's neck. The man killed Stefan's girlfriend and walks around killing civilians just like that. He should be put down.
That's why Damon always bothered me. Somerhalder, whom I adore, said himself (paraphrasing, comic-con): "I don't know about Damon being a good guy, but he's fiercely loyal." That he is. But that he hurts other people bothers me.
And yes, this is the Vampire Diaries, so by now I should have gotten used to people being murdered and nobody caring/reacting realistically. xD But I'm not.
Otherwise, I agree with the rest of you. It was a good episode. I missed this show not revolving around romance only. And can Jeremy's hair always be wet and brushed sideways like it was at the party? Because the rest of time, in S6, it looks like hell.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 8:26:36 GMT -5
What did you Like?
First of all the entire episode kept me hanging on my seat with eyes wide open!!! 42 minutes were over far too fast!!! Stefan being angry and full of revenge plans, somehow I like Stefan's dark side. I loved it when he slammed that fishy boss and compelled him to bury Liv's corpse and then left not before asking for a raise in pay. I've waited for an outbreak against that a**hat of a boss since ep 1! And Stef delivered. I've often said Stefan is the more dangerous brother, his decisons are stonecold and well thought through. I loved it when that nuisance that accompanied Matt to the party was killed ...couldn't stand him, Tripp Fell's little spy. Trying to provoke Ty like that, Ty could have smashed that milk faced bastard with one stroke if he wanted to...but ahhh...no thx wolf curse! I loved the Damon/Bon banters and scenes. But seriously did any of you see how he slammed the egg package in the shopping wagon...not good dude, not good for the eggs That Ky or Kyle or whatever his name was added up to alot of suspense, who is he? Can he be trusted. In any case I liked him from all the three new boys best. Damned good actor!!! And hooray, Bon has her magic back!!! Happy dance! What you did not like?
I am not happy seeing Jer hang around with that Sara, don't trust her, don't like her, if he wants to hook up with random girls ok, but not her. There are rumours and theories she could be Bon's sister or half sister, could be, because I had a closer look at her tonight, she seems to have a darker complexion than the average rest of the crew. I still can't stand Liv, I don't know what it is about her, but her and Ty, uuurgggh!!! What does Ty see in her, apart from the fact that she is blonde like Caro!!! What was your favorite scene/quote?
Stef's conversation with his boss was cool. I loved it when Matt and Ty left Elena and Caro with the jello shots, like oho trouble, we are going now, lol. I loved it how Matt stepped up for his best friend Ty! I loved it when Bon told Damon to end it here and now because all he was doing was moaning and whining 24/7. They way she wanted to grab his ring What scene was the most shocking to you or caught you off guard?When Stef shot Enzo from the back, I didn't expect that, I thought one of Tripp Fell's agents shot Enzo. I don't know where i stand with Enzo, but I remain with my opinion of last season he is a pain in the a** and btw I gave 5/5 well deserved points, acn't wait til it is next Thursday again! Cheers!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 11:00:40 GMT -5
Something about the way Stefan attacked Enzo, wanted to kill him with the wooden bullets, then changed his mind and delivered him to Tripp Fell reminded me of season 1 in the episode 14 birthday candles when Damon killed Lexi as a part of his mastermind plan...
I can't really grasp the thought I have and put into words...it just flashed my head when I watched the scene.
What is Stefan up to, because I don't believe he is siding with vampire hunters, hell bent on destroying his friends.
And I am sure Enzo is going to recover very soon and in the end Tripp Fell will get a vist by the grim reaper, no way he will survive.
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Post by Kiki on Oct 17, 2014 11:06:40 GMT -5
Something about the way Stefan attacked Enzo, wanted to kill him with the wooden bullets, then changed his mind and delivered him to Tripp Fell reminded me of season 1 in the episode 14 birthday candles when Damon killed Lexi as a part of his mastermind plan... I can't really grasp the thought I have and put into words...it just flashed my head when I watched the scene. What is Stefan up to, because I don't believe he is siding with vampire hunters, hell bent on destroying his friends. And I am sure Enzo is going to recover very soon and in the end Tripp Fell will get a vist by the grim reaper, no way he will survive. Someone mentioned it somewhere here and I don't remember who it was but he suggested that Enzo and Stefan worked together on this. Because if Stefan would have wanted Enzo dead he could have easily killed him himself. But giving him over to Tripp could make Enzo function as a spy maybe?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 11:26:49 GMT -5
Something about the way Stefan attacked Enzo, wanted to kill him with the wooden bullets, then changed his mind and delivered him to Tripp Fell reminded me of season 1 in the episode 14 birthday candles when Damon killed Lexi as a part of his mastermind plan... I can't really grasp the thought I have and put into words...it just flashed my head when I watched the scene. What is Stefan up to, because I don't believe he is siding with vampire hunters, hell bent on destroying his friends. And I am sure Enzo is going to recover very soon and in the end Tripp Fell will get a vist by the grim reaper, no way he will survive. Someone mentioned it somewhere here and I don't remember who it was but he suggested that Enzo and Stefan worked together on this. Because if Stefan would have wanted Enzo dead he could have easily killed him himself. But giving him over to Tripp could make Enzo function as a spy maybe? could be possible, when did they have the time though to communicate this? Of course they wouldn't show us yet, they might show us in a few episodes a flashback where enzo/Stef communicated over this. But one thing is sure if Stef wanted to kill Enzo he would have killed him with a wooden bullet straight in his heart. And now I know what reminds me of that Damon parallel in se 1...it was what he said to Fell, sth abt Salvatore we have alot in common, like damon infiltrated the Council Stef might want to infiltrate Fell's special squad. I am sure that Enzo will kill that terrible Fell in the end.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 11:28:55 GMT -5
Someone mentioned it somewhere here and I don't remember who it was but he suggested that Enzo and Stefan worked together on this. Because if Stefan would have wanted Enzo dead he could have easily killed him himself. But giving him over to Tripp could make Enzo function as a spy maybe? could be possible, when did they have the time though to communicate this? Of course they wouldn't show us yet, they might show us in a few episodes a flashback where enzo/Stef communicated over this. But one thing is sure if Stef wanted to kill Enzo he would have killed him with a wooden bullet straight in his heart. And now I know what reminds me of that Damon parallel in se 1...it was what he said to Fell, sth abt Salvatore we have alot in common, like damon infiltrated the Council Stef might want to infiltrate Fell's special squad. I am sure that Enzo will kill that terrible Fell in the end. it was katvolley13 who suggested the theory the might work together...
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Post by jennifer on Oct 17, 2014 11:46:46 GMT -5
What did you like?Damon & Bonnie - that egg thumping, clue bickering, sleuthing version of a shopping trip. The two actors are good together. Damon was like a little boy discovering his Thunderbird, and then there was that shining moment when Bonnie found her magic. She just needed a reason. Kai is tricky. I'm sure we'll hear the backstory why he's stuck. He wants out, that's for sure. Whether he's going to help Bonnie and Damon.....? The other characters talking about Elena's compulsion and how strange it felt to talk to her. How long before Caroline can't stand it and spills the beans, or the boys start talking about something funny Damon did while he and Elena were dating, or Elena runs across a photo she forgot to delete. There are too many opportunities for the truth to come out. Stefan's hot when he's mad. Seriously, I like it when he breaks out of his calm mode and unleashes some fire. You're right moshe12, Stefan feels more dangerous because he's less impulsive. PW has a great steely resolve look. They aren't steering Stefan/Elena together because of the compulsion. Stefan's clearly not interested in a GF at the moment. What did you not like?"Cute Brag" is a really awful nickname - did I hear that correctly? The first part of the swimming hole was boring. The new guy provoking Tyler didn't come off as realistic. What was your favorite scene/quote?
Caroline making Enzo recite her rules. Caroline: "It's important that we let Elena live her new happy, problem-ignoring, zombie life the way she wants." Enzo: "Sounding like someone oddly supportive yet judgmental." What scene was most shocking to you or caught you off guard?
Stefan turning Enzo over to Tripp., Finding out Sarah isn't compelled; she's putting on a good show. Also Stefan lying to Elena and Caroline so blatantly. He was so different this episode.
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Post by napoli on Oct 17, 2014 13:36:10 GMT -5
What did you Like?
Pissed off Stefan – as long as it doesn’t last too long. He’s not only grieving for his brother but he also feels guilty because he knows Damon sacrificed himself to save Stefan and that Damon was finally happy before he died and feels responsible for Damon’s loss.
Stefan is trying to escape this pain (grief and guilt) by leaving MF and starting over. It’s the same way Elena is dealing with her grief by having her memories of Damon altered so she won’t feel so much pain. You can add Jeremy to this list because he’s doing the same thing with booze, video games and random hook ups.
Un-whiny Elena and Liam kissing her versus Elena kissing him. Even with her memories altered I don’t believe it will be that easy to erase Damon’s love from her life. If the writers show consistency Elena should still feel an emptiness, just as Jeremy felt for Vicky, even if for the moment she is seemlingly over her grief.
Elena and Stefan talking as friends was wonderful even if Stefan was lying to her about coming to see her. Stefan only came to MF for revenge.
Caroline not answering Stefan’s calls – payback.
Tyler being responsible. I was worried the writers were going to revert his character to his douchebag days of earlier seasons.
Bamon – I use this term but only as a friendship bond and want nothing more between them! Yet. Their back and forth bickering was great. I loved the blue-tinted aviator glasses and introducing Kai. I’m not saying I like Kai but I like that this plot is advancing and that I’m still interested in it. It’s super creepy though that he’s been watching them all this time.
Enzo not lying to Caroline and admitting that he killed the waitress.
Enzo killing Jay.
Bonnie getting her powers back and having done so in order to save Damon.
What you did not like?
Stefan lying (to everyone!) and being mean to Caroline. I get he’s grieving but unless his empathy chip is completely broken he should have been able to utter some words of comfort to Caroline without crushing her when she’s already down.
Caroline focusing on Stefan missing from her life when he doesn’t owe her anything especially since he’s also suffering right now. She should give him time and space to grieve. They are vampires so they have the luxury of time to reconnect later.
Caroline telling Elena that not everyone is pretending and that some choose to face their problems head on. It’s like she’s having a one sided conversation with an amnesiac and expecting them to have a meaningful answer for her. Elena has no idea what she was talking about and she should have expressed her dismay and disapproval prior to Elena going through the memory wipe and then let it go now that it’s happened.
Everyone deals with grief in their own way and Caroline shouldn’t be forcing her way on everyone else. She also seems to be more pissed that both Elena and Stefan have found a way to cope (even if they’ve both chosen unhealthy ways) that doesn’t include help from her.
Caroline also had the luxury of spending the entire summer with her mother. She had someone she loves and trusts to help comfort her yet Caroline is still dumping on Stefan and Elena. When Caroline was lamenting the fact that she’s lonely and Elena offers her friendship Caroline walks away. Way to take your own advice Caroline.
The Tyler-Liv flirtfest.
Caroline eating off of Enzo’s plate.
What was your favorite scene/quote?
Elena to Stefan: ‘It’s been really rough losing Bonnie the last couple of months...which is an incredibly insensitive thing to say to somebody who just lost their brother.’
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Elena to Stefan in 5x07: ‘And because while you were suffering in that safe grasping onto hope. Fighting every second that you wouldn’t lose your humanity. I was happy. I got everything that I wanted Stefan. I got to be in love. I got the summer of my dreams. I got Bonnie back. So I need to know that this worked. I need to know that it’s going to take away all of your suffering. I need to know that you’re going to be okay.'
Even in 6x01, pre-memory wipe, the only positive thing Elena said about going into medicine was the unlimited access to blood bags but this episode she told Stefan: ‘Seeing sick people getting better... It’s inspiring.’
We’re already seeing the positive effect of Elena not being in a toxic, controlling, codependent and consuming relationship. The writers are showing how Damon is the worst thing for Elena as foreshadowed in the 4x23 DE love confession.
Bonnie to Damon: ‘Give me your ring. All I’ve heard you say is that you have no hope and that this is your hell. So if it’s so bad then why don’t you just end it. Hope is the only thing keeping me going Damon. So if you’re really done. If you have none...then be done. Cause this isn’t helping.’
This was a fantastic scene and shows Bonnie challenging Damon. It’s reminiscent of Damon and Elena when Elena was human because Elena certainly hasn’t challenged him as a vampire. It’s also somewhat reminiscent of the SE scene in 1x20 when Elena gives Stefan his ring back and challenges him to keep fighting.
What scene was the most shocking to you or caught you off guard?
Knowing the compulsion wears off when you enter MF. It’s a great twist.
Sara should have known by morning as she spent the night at the Salvatore house that she was attacked by Elena and that Matt was complicit in hiding her being attacked so why did it take her so long to act? It could explain why she said ‘Oh my God’ when Elena interrupted her and Jeremy kissing but Sara just seemed super calm for someone who knew all day she had been attacked.
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Post by demetra on Oct 17, 2014 16:07:52 GMT -5
I feel like TVD is slowly going back to it's old quality. now that Delena is removed we see the other characters again and a storyline is developing. I love to do guessing games again. But please stopp killing all new characters after 2 episodes. I hate to guess what their storylines will be only to see them dead the next episode. And I cannot get into this Stefan & Caroline lovestory. But well... you cannot have everything Neither can Stefan, apparently.
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Post by demetra on Oct 17, 2014 16:10:19 GMT -5
Someone mentioned it somewhere here and I don't remember who it was but he suggested that Enzo and Stefan worked together on this. Because if Stefan would have wanted Enzo dead he could have easily killed him himself. But giving him over to Tripp could make Enzo function as a spy maybe? could be possible, when did they have the time though to communicate this? Of course they wouldn't show us yet, they might show us in a few episodes a flashback where enzo/Stef communicated over this. But one thing is sure if Stef wanted to kill Enzo he would have killed him with a wooden bullet straight in his heart. And now I know what reminds me of that Damon parallel in se 1...it was what he said to Fell, sth abt Salvatore we have alot in common, like damon infiltrated the Council Stef might want to infiltrate Fell's special squad. I am sure that Enzo will kill that terrible Fell in the end. I think Stefan did mean to give Enzo over, and Caroline will give him such a blast next week that he will help recover him.
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