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Post by Ruby on Oct 2, 2014 18:54:00 GMT -5
TVD 6X01 Jeffrey Hunt directed the episode written by Caroline Dries
THIS IS A DEBATES AREA THREAD PLEASE READ BELOW lets come together to share our thoughts about tonight's episode! =)All TVD Fans Welcomed including Exclusive Ship fans lol Lets discuss:
What did you Like? What you did not like? What was your favorite scene/quote? What scene was the most shocking to you or caught you off guard? AND HOW DID YOU LIKE THIS SEASON premiere AND WHAT YOU EXPECT FOR this SEASON =)
ONLY RULES* When replying to someone's response please BE POLITE AND AVOID BEING RUDE TO SOMEONE'S OPINION. =) You can nicely state why you might disagree without saying "well you're wrong" or "I dont like your opinion" Lets stick to the episode topic xoxo
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 21:25:06 GMT -5
I liked the whole concept of the gang drifting apart for a while, it was interesting, to see how everyone coped with loss/grief in their own way!
I swear I cannot take whining and crying Elena for too long anymore. I am not very happy to see those two useless wonder twins back, havn't decided which of them to hate more! Very unhappy with Jer and feel sorry for Ty.
My fav scene was Caro and her mother on the picnic, I love their bonding. And I like Sheriff Liz alot, so it was nice to see them hanging around together. Caro is so evolved person.
The last scene in the epsiode shocked me and I didn't expect to see those two so soon, the Bonnie/Damon breakfast scene.
I gave the episode 4/5 points, I am very intereste ´d in how things turn out, don't expect anything because then I won't be disappointed, I just go wth the flow.
Cheers
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Post by katvolley13 on Oct 2, 2014 21:33:06 GMT -5
I liked caroline and mom scene I liked matt being a cop super bad ass go matt I liked that maybe whiney elena might go away
Everything else was boring not exciting and I am hoping for more next couple of episodes
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Post by Kiki on Oct 3, 2014 5:19:36 GMT -5
I liked the idea of Stefan starting a whole new life away from everyone but then again we all know this is not gonna happen for long
I cannot watch at crying Elena anymore. Does this girl do anything else than crying for Damon? Remember when she used to be the heroine of the show? Well... long looooooooong time ago
I like Matt's new activities. But it's too early to hope for a real storyline for him. But I have hope
Bonnie and Damon at the end seemed like fun to watch. More of that please. I think this could be a really funny storyline. Those two lovehating each other
What I miss is a new season goal, a theme for the season. Nothing was introduced. Or will this season be about crying Delena? Please give me more than that
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Post by Ruby on Oct 3, 2014 5:19:54 GMT -5
Like Moshe I liked the concept of the gang all split up..dealong with everything in their own way. I liked how they started off the episode making you believe Elena was writing in her Journal when she was really being a Vampire on the E pill haha. it was kind of parallel to the pilot episode where she used her journal to cope with her parents being dead and now how all that grief has effected her (like Damon was basically the icing on the cake in order for her to snap) I liked that Caroline is dealing with her grief by being the fixer upper trying to find ways to deal with these things and find a way home. It was sad to see how much she misses stefan. I enjoyed Stefan being all domestic haha and trying to live his own life. It gives us a feel of what he used to do before he went back to Mystic falls. He didnt even bother compelling the owner to give him money And although he says he has moved on and said goodbye...he has in fact just took on the brooding stage. Dodging phone calls breaking phones..sleeping with his new girl and drinking. I wish he would have been able to listen to Carolines messagr but I see why he is ignoring her. Shes his modern version of Lexi. He knows Caroline will be on top of him in the quickness and he doesnt want to deal with that right now. Knowing she will try to snap jim out of w.e funk he is in. I like the Witch Twins. I like the fact we going to get some back story about thwir coven and their history. I enjoyed the Tyler and Liv interactions as well. She wants some Ty and he wants some juju hahaha. I like that Matt is on this committee group thing. Training and looking all buff. He wants to be able to do his part. Jeremy is another case in itself. Hes been another one through so much so I see why he is the way he is. Alaric... Its nice to see him back. And it was funny how he lost his game lol and whispering to Elena in class about the blood lol.. Tripp looks interesting. The only thing I didn't like and at first I was like urgh Elena but then im like urgh these writers. I dont like the rexycled speeches. I understand how much Elena is dealing with the loss of Damon. NINA does an excellent portrayal of grief. I just dont like that they have to recycle what damon told her when they first met. It makes the whole speech IMO corny n I roll my eyes at my screen. It instantly turns me off. Its like the writers went into tumblr to see what the shippers were using to argue their shipper preference and they want to show Delena is in the top rankings right now so lets throw that in there. I dont believe in oh you gave me a love that consumed me and passion and adventure.... Just word it differently. Like when she explained what she felt for him when she kind of confessed it to Matt right before she died. N this is coming from no shipper preference perspective. Anyway I as well gave the show 4/5 I was shocked with the whole Elena wants to be compelled to forget Damon. I didnt see that one coming and like Anna said during chat..its sad to see that she has come to that resort and how much its effected her. Old elena never wanted to forget. I think Alaric should compel her to just accept his death and get the closeure she needs. But looking by the episode preview for next week he prob wants to erase the moment she fell for him? Hence him asking when she fell in love with damon. Glad to see Stefan will be back. Also Bamon are stuck in the Grill wth lol or maybe mystic falls as it is? Thats my recap P.s if Elena forgets she fell for Damon does that mean she will be into Stefan again? Because I dont want that at all.
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Post by amimi on Oct 3, 2014 8:54:49 GMT -5
Guys! It was good! It was different, it felt different! After a long hiatus isn't it great just to see a new episode, like getting to visit old friends?
It was interesting, too, with the chemistry between Tyler and Liv, Matt's potentially cool storyline, Stefan's bubbling anger, Elena's (and Jer's) despair, Alaric's calming presence, and especially that crazy ending with the happy face pancake. I loved it!
I am Team Stefan, so I get the frustration with where they've taken his storyline, but I love all of these characters enough that I'm happy just to have them back. And I really think the season will surprise us. Maybe just maybe?
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Post by tatia on Oct 3, 2014 10:14:27 GMT -5
I found Caroline's speech at the end quite emotionally provoking, otherwise throughout the episode none of the characters were really recieving any empathy from me. Somehow, everyone seemed frustrating! Not always in a bad way, I liked having Alaryck back although I wished he could have been lighter and funny, even if it just came off as him trying to hard. Everyone was so bitter and dark in this episode, it needed something to lift it up. I expect that we'll soon be seeing him go off the rails to some extent - I just hope it won't seem repetitive to his own past or mirror other characters who have had the problem before to much. Give us something new, please! Tyler and Liv are probably going to be the hottest source of romantic drama for awhile yet, and I appreciate them because neither are particularly complex characters and so there probably won't be too much angst. It's looking like a light hearted and satisfying chase for the girl. I have no sympathy for Elena, I hated everyone (inc. Elena herself) saying she knows grief and knows what was best for her, when clearly she has never handled grief effectively in the past, in fact it seems to have driven her to very similar extremes! Which was why Carolines suprise and outrage didn't sit well with me, I guess I thought she would jave a better understanding of her friend and not treat her like a monster- but offer support. She needs help and I am glad she went to Rick for it, I hope she clears her memories, however I do think it will change her significantly. I hope it won't return her to her Season 1 self. Matt is boring. This whole plotline was pretty dry, basically just and introduction to a series of character-related plots. It seems that the group has lost their drive and strength together, making their likelyhood of figuring out about Damon and Bonnie low. The last scene surprised me, I had no idea we would be truly seeing our lost characters so early! In the end it just seems like the other seasons, I had thought this 'death'would pose a harder challenge and take up a lot of the season. It probably still will. Either way I am glad to see them, my guess is they've got no memories about their friends.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 12:11:24 GMT -5
Like Moshe I liked the concept of the gang all split up..dealong with everything in their own way. I liked how they started off the episode making you believe Elena was writing in her Journal when she was really being a Vampire on the E pill haha. it was kind of parallel to the pilot episode where she used her journal to cope with her parents being dead and now how all that grief has effected her (like Damon was basically the icing on the cake in order for her to snap) I liked that Caroline is dealing with her grief by being the fixer upper trying to find ways to deal with these things and find a way home. It was sad to see how much she misses stefan. I enjoyed Stefan being all domestic haha and trying to live his own life. It gives us a feel of what he used to do before he went back to Mystic falls. He didnt even bother compelling the owner to give him money And although he says he has moved on and said goodbye...he has in fact just took on the brooding stage. Dodging phone calls breaking phones..sleeping with his new girl and drinking. I wish he would have been able to listen to Carolines messagr but I see why he is ignoring her. Shes his modern version of Lexi. He knows Caroline will be on top of him in the quickness and he doesnt want to deal with that right now. Knowing she will try to snap jim out of w.e funk he is in. I like the Witch Twins. I like the fact we going to get some back story about thwir coven and their history. I enjoyed the Tyler and Liv interactions as well. She wants some Ty and he wants some juju hahaha. I like that Matt is on this committee group thing. Training and looking all buff. He wants to be able to do his part. Jeremy is another case in itself. Hes been another one through so much so I see why he is the way he is. Alaric... Its nice to see him back. And it was funny how he lost his game lol and whispering to Elena in class about the blood lol.. Tripp looks interesting. The only thing I didn't like and at first I was like urgh Elena but then im like urgh these writers. I dont like the rexycled speeches. I understand how much Elena is dealing with the loss of Damon. NINA does an excellent portrayal of grief. I just dont like that they have to recycle what damon told her when they first met. It makes the whole speech IMO corny n I roll my eyes at my screen. It instantly turns me off. Its like the writers went into tumblr to see what the shippers were using to argue their shipper preference and they want to show Delena is in the top rankings right now so lets throw that in there. I dont believe in oh you gave me a love that consumed me and passion and adventure.... Just word it differently. Like when she explained what she felt for him when she kind of confessed it to Matt right before she died. N this is coming from no shipper preference perspective. Anyway I as well gave the show 4/5 I was shocked with the whole Elena wants to be compelled to forget Damon. I didnt see that one coming and like Anna said during chat..its sad to see that she has come to that resort and how much its effected her. Old elena never wanted to forget. I think Alaric should compel her to just accept his death and get the closeure she needs. But looking by the episode preview for next week he prob wants to erase the moment she fell for him? Hence him asking when she fell in love with damon. Glad to see Stefan will be back. Also Bamon are stuck in the Grill wth lol or maybe mystic falls as it is? Thats my recap P.s if Elena forgets she fell for Damon does that mean she will be into Stefan again? Because I dont want that at all. I forgot to mention Matt, he's in a good stable condition, and I like how he takes responsibility and looks after Jer. and ...I would fall on my knees and be grateful forever if Alaric did us all a big favor and compelled Elena, so that we don't have to hear her moaning and whining all season, cant take it much longer anymore... and what are the bets...Ty is going to kill someone AGAIN and trigger that curse, he remaining a human is against all odds, PLUS they seem to focus alot on his anger issues, seriously he seemed even more angry than in season 1. Gotta pay credit to him, he is a loyal person and went right after that useless Luke after knowing that Elena takes herb drugs. And what does he want with the other useless twin Liv, is he falling for her? SMH
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Post by demetra on Oct 3, 2014 12:45:22 GMT -5
Well, guys, I loved it! I loved the pace, and the time given to everyone, especially Elena, to process what happened with Damon and Bonnie. I loved the two reveals at the end, with the opportunity of Alaric's special ability as an Original, and with Damon and Bonnie. I also really liked Elena's look, the same textures, denim and leather, but more polished. I liked the livelier sense of student life around Whitmore College.
As a Stelena, I was somewhat laughing at how well they manipulated my own desire to see Elena and Stefan connect at every turn. If Elena can't say goodbye to Delena, I sure haven't given up on Stelena. Oh, look, she's finally saying goodbye to Damon. Having said that, is that Stefan's hand on her shoulder?? Crap, no, it is still Damon. Oh no, if Alaric is successful at doing what Elena asks him to do, it is a cheat -- she'll never have really said goodbye to Damon. Whereas I am interested to see how it played out with Delenas, especially the scene at the end.
In terms of dislikes, a minor quibble: Stefan's hair was a bit too coiffed from the side in the bedroom scene.
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Post by crimmyj on Oct 3, 2014 14:07:41 GMT -5
I was incredibly underwhelemed with this premiere. It made me really sad, and not because of the plot.
I'm with Ruby on the recycled Delena dialogue. That felt lazy and I wished they created another more thoughtful way to portray the love instead of rehashing the same buzzwords. It just felt like we had been there before, heard it before, just going through the motions. Therefore it just wasn't emotionally gripping as it should have been in my opinion. felt overwrought.
Taking off my TVD rose colored glasses (or stefan colored glasses) I just felt uninspired by the dialogue and the performances. It really feels like they are phoning it in. The acting didn't seem effortless like in past seasons, I could see the acting. It just didn't come off as natural to me.
The scene I enjoyed the most was actually a lot of the Tyler stuff...which came as a complete shock to me considering Tyler has never been a character i've particular enjoyed in the past. The scene of Tyler and Liv in the hallway was nicely delivered by the actors. It was subtle. I felt more over Tyler's vulnerability at that moment than any other character this episode.
I think there were some missed opportunities for the writers to have similar scenes, like between Matt and Jer. I felt they could have done more with them, particularly Jer.
After disliking the wonder twins last season for my 2 cents I thought Luke and Liv were the bright spots of this episode.
Minor quibble: sophomore students declaring pre-med doing "rounds" in uniform in a hospital...uh,yeah...nope. Can we please make the pre-med stuff slightly more believable than that. Terrible.
Looking forward to Enzo coming back, hoping for a more meaningful Alaric, already like the dynamic between Tripp and Liz butting heads. Then end scene made me realize how much I really miss Bonnie, but I have been missing Bonnie being a meaningful part of the show for a long time. It will be so nice to see her as something other that the deux ex machina she would always represent.
Not looking forward to how they will handle compelling Elena. overall I think that idea is a bad one.
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Post by Kiki on Oct 3, 2014 14:13:15 GMT -5
somehow I get the feeling they used the sirebond to end Stelena and now they will use the compelling to end Delena. Like a loveswitch
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Post by demetra on Oct 3, 2014 14:45:04 GMT -5
somehow I get the feeling they used the sirebond to end Stelena and now they will use the compelling to end Delena. Like a loveswitch Yes, but as we saw more than once with Klaus and Stefan, Elena could be uncompelled as well, thereby preserving her feelings for Damon when he is restored to the land of the living. As a Stelena, I feel that there could be a massive FU coming our way should Alaric do it.
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Post by crimmyj on Oct 3, 2014 14:57:10 GMT -5
somehow I get the feeling they used the sirebond to end Stelena and now they will use the compelling to end Delena. Like a loveswitch Yes, but as we saw more than once with Klaus and Stefan, Elena could be uncompelled as well, thereby preserving her feelings for Damon when he is restored to the land of the living. As a Stelena, I feel that there could be a massive FU coming our way should Alaric do it. Any SEers should just clinch their buttcheeks now because I have a feeling the only romantic connection they will allow SE will be because of compelling Elena. So gross. The writers can suck a bag of ..... if that is the route they take. If the triangle is truly over then don't even hint at it with that sort of cheap ploy.
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Post by deb on Oct 3, 2014 15:19:32 GMT -5
somehow I get the feeling they used the sirebond to end Stelena and now they will use the compelling to end Delena. Like a loveswitch * spoiler *In episode 4, she's still asking for Stefan's help to move on from Damon so, even if Alaric does it, he'll probably undo it in episode 3... Maybe Stefan realizes what he did (he realizes a change in her, in episode 3, right?) and asks Alaric to undo it because Stefan always thought that isn't the way to deal with things... Turning it off, compelling to forget, losing your free will, he's always against that... I could see Stefan doing that...
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Post by katvolley13 on Oct 3, 2014 16:15:29 GMT -5
Right because stefen always does the right thing.
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