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Post by crimmyj on Jun 9, 2014 14:59:19 GMT -5
Just throwing this show into the mix because I am a huge fan of the show and the books. And if anyone else wants to commiserate with me that only one episode is left then this is the place to do it. I'm still mourning the Red Viper. Also to share theories on how it ends (the books) ... I have my Jon Snow theory that better be endgame or I am going to throw a rebellious tantrum that no one but myself will pay attention too. My House Sigil will be a middle finger on fire.
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Post by Kiki on Jun 10, 2014 15:30:00 GMT -5
I only read the first book and hated it. But my friend convinced me to watch the show so I marathoned it and I realy like it. But I have not seen the latest episode. Gonna watch it tonight and maybe chat with you about it tomorrow. I know they never met and probably will never meet but I totally ship Kalesee with Jon Snow. I know that's crazy but I think they would be a great couple
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Post by crimmyj on Jun 10, 2014 16:08:38 GMT -5
I only read the first book and hated it. But my friend convinced me to watch the show so I marathoned it and I realy like it. But I have not seen the latest episode. Gonna watch it tonight and maybe chat with you about it tomorrow. I know they never met and probably will never meet but I totally ship Kalesee with Jon Snow. I know that's crazy but I think they would be a great couple Kiki you just touched on what I want GoT endgame to be ... Khaleesi (Daenerys Targaryen) and Jon Snow fighting side by side against the whitewalkers and ruling Westeros!! Not necessarily as a couple because my other theory is that Jon Snow isn't Ned Stark's bastard son but actually Ned's sister Lyanna's son that she potentially had when she was "captured" by Rhaegar Targaryen. Making Jon Snow both Stark and Targaryen. Hence "The Song of Fire and Ice" But that is just my hope, which means GRR Martin will probably poop on that idea and break my heart.
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Post by Kiki on Jun 10, 2014 16:39:27 GMT -5
Yes I thought ned was not jon's father. He loved his wife too much to cheat on her. He was protecting someone when he took jon as his son. I thought maybe this uncle from the wall who took so much care of jon. Warriors from the wall are not allowed to have a wife but maybe this uncle (forgot his name) fell in love with a woman and had a child with her and ned protected them by taking the child as his own
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Post by crimmyj on Jun 10, 2014 16:52:48 GMT -5
Yes I thought ned was not jon's father. He loved his wife too much to cheat on her. He was protecting someone when he took jon as his son. I thought maybe this uncle from the wall who took so much care of jon. Warriors from the wall are not allowed to have a wife but maybe this uncle (forgot his name) fell in love with a woman and had a child with her and ned protected them by taking the child as his own Totally right, I think Ned was protecting the child which is why he took him and made people think Jon was his bastard son. Why I think Jon is Lyanna's child Ned is saving because of how obsessed Robert Baratheon was with his betrothed, Lyanna (it started the Rebellion to overthrow King Aerys). I think that when Lyanna was "kidnapped" that she and Rhaegar actually fell in love and had a child. I think Ned took the child to protect him because he knew that if Robert ever found out about this child he would have had him killed being it would be a Targaryen heir. We know from the books that when Ned found Lyanna she was already dying in a pool of blood (maybe from terrible childbirth perhaps) and that her last words to Ned where "promise me, Ned" a promise to keep my child safe perhaps? As it has yet to be revealed what that promise was. Plus Ned's last words to Jon Snow before he left for the wall was the promise to tell him of his mother. Which again leads me to believe that moment was so heartfelt because Ned was talking about his beloved sister.
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Post by Kiki on Jun 11, 2014 9:27:05 GMT -5
ok I watched the latest episode now. Not a great episode though. Too much fighting and not much storyline. What happened to Tyrion? How can they just leave us hanging on that storyline?? And did they ever tell what happened to the baby who was sacrificed on the table by the white wanderer?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 9:53:07 GMT -5
Great job crimmyj for creating this thread. Given the popularity of this show, it's surprising it wasn't a part of this forum sooner. But it is now, and I can't wait to discuss it with everyone, cause this is one of my absolute favorite shows. Just please: no spoilers from the books everyone! I haven't read them yet.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2014 12:02:58 GMT -5
ok I watched the latest episode now. Not a great episode though. Too much fighting and not much storyline. What happened to Tyrion? How can they just leave us hanging on that storyline?? And did they ever tell what happened to the baby who was sacrificed on the table by the white wanderer? Well I'm a guy Kiki, so I love watching acts of violence -- which probably explains why I liked this episode. The fight scenes were great, the action was nonstop, and -- Giants! Can't get any better than that. Plus, I love that they kept it to one location throughout the episode. It made the story more engaging and enjoyable that way. The only disappointing thing was Ygritte dying. And by a kid nontheless. I felt her storyline wasn't built up enough this season to have the proper payoff her death brought. It was just too soon. They should've shown more scenes with her and Jon throughout the season, or at-least wait a little longer before they killed her off. Though her dying in Jon's arms was pretty heartbreaking to watch, so I guess something good came out of what little scenes they had together. (BTW, I was really hoping for a fight scene between them. I'm a little disappointed the show didn't go in that direction. Oh well.) Good episode though.
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Post by crimmyj on Jun 11, 2014 13:37:13 GMT -5
ok I watched the latest episode now. Not a great episode though. Too much fighting and not much storyline. What happened to Tyrion? How can they just leave us hanging on that storyline?? And did they ever tell what happened to the baby who was sacrificed on the table by the white wanderer? Well I'm a guy Kiki, so I love watching acts of violence -- which probably explains why I liked this episode. The fight scenes were great, the action was nonstop, and -- Giants! Can't get any better than that. Plus, I love that they kept it to one location throughout the episode. It made the story more engaging and enjoyable that way. The only disappointing thing was Ygritte dying. And by a kid nontheless. I felt her storyline wasn't built up enough this season to have the proper payoff her death brought. It was just too soon. They should've shown more scenes with her and Jon throughout the season, or at-least wait a little longer before they killed her off. Though her dying in Jon's arms was pretty heartbreaking to watch, so I guess something good came out what little scenes they had together. (BTW, I was really hoping for a fight scene between them. I'm a little disappointed the show didn't go in that direction. Oh well.) Good episode though. I'm a lady, and also love watching acts of violence! WOO! So I was loving the battle (plus what beautiful long shots of the action, love that). I'm one of those fans that have read the books so I watch more with the anticipation of getting a visual of moments that stood out in the books, but that also means knowing what potentially will happen to certain characters so I knew what to expect from Ygritte's death. Though I will say they do change up enough things to make it intriguing for me as well. That said I thought Ygritte's death was well done, she died beautifully. I thought the build up to the moment was great, because you knew once she faced Jon she wouldn't be able to follow through. All the emotions running through her face at that moment she holds her bow up...ugh intense! The heartbreak, the love, the anger. Great scene. Samwell Tarly owned that episode!! How great was that to see how far his character has come? His maturity, strength, courage, having something worth fighting and dying for. All of his dialogue was so well composed for each scene. I loved his moment in the library with Maester Aemon. Was great to see how the Wall's defenses work. brutal stuff! The scene that gave me the most feels was when the 5 guys went down to defend the tunnel gate, when the Giant comes charging and they recite the oath of the Night's Watch. EMOTIONS!! Kiki don't worry, I think the season finale will take us back to some of Tyrion's SL, I'm curious to how much they will give us, and what they will leave hanging for next season. As far as the baby and the white walkers, I think that is going to be a slower roll out plot wise because even in the books things about the white walkers still remain mysterious.
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Post by Kiki on Jun 11, 2014 13:50:41 GMT -5
I read some kind of guide website for Game of Thrones. It's German so I don't post the link here. But from what I understood is that white walkers can wake dead people and they become some kind of blue eyed zombies? The one who sacrificed that baby looked a lot like Khalese's brother. Is it possible that he met a white walker? Oh well, if I think about it again.. don't tell me what's in the books. I rather get surprised by the show How many episodes left?
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Post by shoe20 on Jun 11, 2014 16:34:15 GMT -5
I read some kind of guide website for Game of Thrones. It's German so I don't post the link here. But from what I understood is that white walkers can wake dead people and they become some kind of blue eyed zombies? The one who sacrificed that baby looked a lot like Khalese's brother. Is it possible that he met a white walker? Oh well, if I think about it again.. don't tell me what's in the books. I rather get surprised by the show How many episodes left? Sunday "The Children" is the season finale. , but it will be great. I'm a big fan of the series too. Thanks crimmyj, for giving me another thread to keep track of. lol The series kills off characters with out blinking an eye. (and they don't come back, lol.... yet, at least). Haven't read the books so I'm with @dman24 on the book spoilers .... Khaleesi's my girl, mother of dragons and user of men.=) Jon and Tyrion are a toss up....Peter Dinklage is a great actor. Cersei, is by far the villain of choice for me. It's a shame we didn't have the thread for the whole season, but there's next year, right? If Jack Bower was in the series they'd have to rename it "Game of Throne" lol
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Post by Andrew55 on Jun 11, 2014 18:47:45 GMT -5
I love Game of Thrones and am sad to think that this Sunday will be the last episode until next April. I still believed that Jon Snow is the son of Lyanna and Ned took it upon himself to raise him as a Stark. I always thought "A Song of Ice and Fire" referred to the the two battle fronts that will take place. Ice meaning the white walkers and their invasion from the north and Fire meaning Daenerys' dragons, with her assault from the East. I've never read the books so maybe there is evidence to prove my theory wrong. I know this show does not have fairy tale endings and I like that. I like that it's real and raw. However, I do hope that there is some payoff and some sense of justice that meets the Lannisters and the like. I mean I know Joffrey bit the dust but Cersei and Tywin need some karma to come their way.
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Post by crimmyj on Jun 11, 2014 19:27:55 GMT -5
I promise guys, I will try my best to not let spoilers slip in this thread. shoe20 of course I had to start yet another thread for people to follow. You can't shut me up!! Sorry, Andrew55 GRR Martin doesn't pay no mind to karma sometimes! Because if that were the case GoT would be a much different series, wouldn't it? But he is definitely a consequences and actions sort of guy. Sometimes that comes back to bite the heroes, sometimes the villains. A lot like life, tragedy is random and indiscriminate. That is the beauty of it, keeps you on the edge of your seat. I'm curious what they are going to try to fit in to the season finale and what they are going to leave hanging. I know as a reader what I want to see, but I wanted to see the "purple wedding" in the episode right after the "red wedding" last season just so I would have something happy to end on, but of course they made me wait a year for that pay off!! Good news... It is just going to keep getting better guys!
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Post by Andrew55 on Jun 11, 2014 20:39:31 GMT -5
I promise guys, I will try my best to not let spoilers slip in this thread. shoe20 of course I had to start yet another thread for people to follow. You can't shut me up!! Sorry, Andrew55 GRR Martin doesn't pay no mind to karma sometimes! Because if that were the case GoT would be a much different series, wouldn't it? But he is definitely a consequences and actions sort of guy. Sometimes that comes back to bite the heroes, sometimes the villains. A lot like life, tragedy is random and indiscriminate. That is the beauty of it, keeps you on the edge of your seat. I'm curious what they are going to try to fit in to the season finale and what they are going to leave hanging. I know as a reader what I want to see, but I wanted to see the "purple wedding" in the episode right after the "red wedding" last season just so I would have something happy to end on, but of course they made me wait a year for that pay off!! Good news... It is just going to keep getting better guys! Hahaha yeah GRR Martin does not play favorites...that is for sure. I wouldn't want him to start making it into some sort of fairy tale with a beautifully perfect ending. However, I do find it unrealistic to have the heavy majority of the bad things happen to the so called "heroes" and hardly anything bad happen to the "villains". Now I use those words loosely because depending on each person's perspective we all see different things. But this is just not some historical account....it is a fantasy series so there has to be some sort of payoff and/or satisfying ending. You just can't have the Lannisters win and everyone else die or that would be a stupid and lazy end to the series.
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Post by crimmyj on Jun 11, 2014 20:53:43 GMT -5
I promise guys, I will try my best to not let spoilers slip in this thread. shoe20 of course I had to start yet another thread for people to follow. You can't shut me up!! Sorry, Andrew55 GRR Martin doesn't pay no mind to karma sometimes! Because if that were the case GoT would be a much different series, wouldn't it? But he is definitely a consequences and actions sort of guy. Sometimes that comes back to bite the heroes, sometimes the villains. A lot like life, tragedy is random and indiscriminate. That is the beauty of it, keeps you on the edge of your seat. I'm curious what they are going to try to fit in to the season finale and what they are going to leave hanging. I know as a reader what I want to see, but I wanted to see the "purple wedding" in the episode right after the "red wedding" last season just so I would have something happy to end on, but of course they made me wait a year for that pay off!! Good news... It is just going to keep getting better guys! Hahaha yeah GRR Martin does not play favorites...that is for sure. I wouldn't want him to start making it into some sort of fairy tale with a beautifully perfect ending. However, I do find it unrealistic to have the heavy majority of the bad things happen to the so called "heroes" and hardly anything bad happen to the "villains". Now I use those words loosely because depending on each person's perspective we all see different things. But this is just not some historical account....it is a fantasy series so there has to be some sort of payoff and/or satisfying ending. You just can't have the Lannisters win and everyone else die or that would be a stupid and lazy end to the series. Well you can't possibly hate all the Lannisters....Jamie is very redeemable, and Tyrion is a boss. Cersei of course thinks she is suffering because Joffrey is dead, her brother/lover is handless therefore useless, her dad despises her, and she suffered through a loveless marriage knowing Robert was bangin whor...err, i mean lovely ladies of Flea Bottom and worshiping dead Lyanna. Like you said, perspective is everything. Cersei is like the Katherine Pierce of GoT. What's interesting is that even the "heroes" aren't necessarily heroes in the noblest terms. Even Eddard Stark had his faults and costly mistakes that lead to his beheading, some of his (more so Robert's) actions during the Rebellion weren't entirely "good". Don't worry, Andrew55 Westeros still has plenty of characters to root for that are still out there. And not every "villain" goes unpunished. Sometimes the long game gets played, its just hard to wait. All I know is GRR needs to get to writing, I'm dying to know endgame.
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