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Post by Ruby on Nov 21, 2013 19:13:29 GMT -5
The Vampire Diaries Episode 5x08 Dead Man On Campus
Lets come together to share our thoughts about tonight's episode! =) All TVD Fans Welcomed including Exclusive Ship fans lol Lets discuss:
What did you Like? What you did not like? What was your favorite scene/quote? What scene was the most shocking to you or caught you off guard? And any additional thoughts!
ONLY RULES* When replying to someone's response please be polite. =) You can nicely state why you might disagree without saying "well you're wrong" or "I dont like your opinion" Lets stick to the episode topic xoxo
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Post by Ruby on Nov 21, 2013 22:14:24 GMT -5
This episode was not my favorite but I knew someone was bound to die with the title: "dead man on Campus"
Mystic Falls: Damon and Stefan: I wish I would have seen Damon be a bit more concerned with Stefan, Dazed out sweating and not realizing someone is right in front of him.
Katherine and Matt interactions: interesting enough. Matt is working and obsessively looking at his survellience video. Katherine offers to help for more booze. She calls Nadia to come back into town to help with the situation.
Kat and Stefan: - Stefan has been struggling with his PTSD symptoms thinking he is dying all over again. She was there to get a favor but distract him in the process with helping her help Matt.
So The travelers were using Nadia to get to Silas and then to kill Katherine? But why? Were they confusing her with Amara? Was she on their list because she had the cure in her system/? That was a bit confusing. and Katherine also mentioned about her grandfather or "your grandfather" was a traveler...left me confused need to find out more. well she uses the knife to kill off gregor and remove him from Matt which Katherine magically knew how to do.
Stefan is still loosing it everytime he thinks his drowning. Katherine actually gets through to him so he can face it and take control. She then leaves to commit suicide because of her pride and she wants to die her own way basically. No travelers, no time, just her. Stefan finds her suicidal note quickly and is there right where she falls.
Favorite QUote of the episode: Stefan to Katherine- You're Katherine Pierce. Suck it up! and of course its the best advice Katherine could get. Shes a survivor.
Whitemore Caroline, Elena and Bonnie was awesome in the beginning of the episode. I loved their making fun of Bonnie "registering" for class haha. Caroline gets a call from Jesse and she finds out hes a vampire. They give him the 101 and I liked Elena's reaction when asked if she was a vampire too. "Being a Vampire is awesome". Yea Elena real awesome...but ill get to that later. So the girls throw a party in the dorm area while Damon goes to "question" Dr. Wes which Caroline points out that Damon will kill him. Elena says no he wont..and gets ready to say how she knows caroline doesnt like elena with damon but all caroline wants is for Elena to acknowledge the type of person she is with.
It's a little harsh since the fact Damon had a huge part in bringing back your bestie, Caroline but i get where she is coming from.
Elena finds Aaron, they have a moment and she finds out Wes is the only thing Aaron has as family. which i thought he was his dad but just his legal guardian dad. they definitely look alike.
So because of this THEN elena decides that Damon cant definitely kill Wes. We know the Elena we used to know would had made this her priority from the beginning. but I will not get into that..im just saying it how i see it.
Caroline and Jesse have a little TOO STEAMY public makeout. Tyler who? Dag Caroline..anyway he bites her as Wes reveals to Damon that his experiments deal with Augustine Blood and how it makes Jesse be the type of vampire who craves Vampire Blood rather then human blood.
Anyway Jesse dissapears to find wes to scream at him for this but Damon distracts him with his yummy blood that he was about to give to Wes, which btw had rabies, bacteria in his system courtesy of Damon haha.
So anyways turns out whatever this Augustine blood and injections Wes has been putting into Jesse's system it makes him stronger then your average vampire AND crave Vampire blood.
Jesse feeds on Damon and Elena walks in on it not sure on what to do. (me screaming at my tv: SNAP HIS NECK) but no one listens to me over here...anyways she takes her time trying to talk to jesse. But he's not listening. Hes just sucking on your boyfriend Elena.she is trying to figure out what to do and miraculously a perfect wooden stake is on the floor and she stakes Jesse.
He falls to the floor right when Caroline sees and Caroline is upset because she wanted to help Jesse. Elena pleading with Caroline this was the only choice she had but here goes my mini rant which i do not normally do so please elena lovers please beware and understand its not in a bias manner:
Elena you had the choice to snap his neck, rip him off of Damon, kick him, push him anything to get him off of Damon but she choose the impulsive decision to kill him and she didnt even looked like it slightly bothered her that she killed him..
She claims she had no choice but like Caroline says: The old Elena would had found another way... You know the old Elena that jumped in front of Caroline to not allow Damon from Killing Caroline who they all thought she was going to be a horrible vampire..
Now Caroline's reaction later to Elena was 98% right in my eyes. She wants Elena to realize the person she turns to when she is with someone like Damon. and yes I know Delena fans will hate on the Stelena Queen but Elena has kind of proved what Caroline has been saying.
Elena needed Caroline to believe her when she said she had no other choice but I felt Elena was trying to convince herself. Ok Rant over!
Augustine Vampire: Damon
So turns out Damon was a number in this secret society and he was experimented on and probably tortured. He sees flashbacks of him strapped to a table. So next week or two weeks from now will most likely be Damon-Centric explaining the society and what exactly they doing and did back when Damon was stuck with them.
Wes escapes just in time when damon is about to kill him anyway for the better good and Wes sprays vervain sprinklers or something. Knocks Damon out..and Damon wakes up in a Cave of some sorts with his initials on the wall. so this should be interesting.
Beremy Sexy Time
I'm just saying Jeremy can pick me up the way he picked up Bonnie anytime he likes lol She confesses to Jeremy what was the consequence of becoming the anchor but she assures him that being with him makes all of it worth it. Tonight we saw that Bonnie feels their pain and can talk to them after they have crossed to the other side.
Bonnie and Jeremy finally get it on and its sexy..Bonnie looks hot with her bob cut. I like them.
I give this episode a 3/5
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Kiki
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Post by Kiki on Nov 22, 2013 0:09:41 GMT -5
I hate that TVD is so predictable lately. The only thing that suprised me was Jesse's death. I expected Damon to be an Augustine vampire and I knew Dr Wes was doing experiments on vampires. So I guess they will go the obvious way and let Stefan hook up with Katherine which is 100% fine for me since she is the better doppelgänger version lately. She is became worth of Stefan's love more than Elena is right now. I LOVED when Caroline said "The old Elena would have given Jesse a chance"... I was worried that all this change to the selfish Elena was just accidently happening because of bad writing. Because the writers wanted to push Delena and didn't see how they destroyed Elena. But Caroline pointing it out proved that they really want us to see this selfishness in Elena which gives me hope that there is some supernatural reason behind it which will go away and give us the old Elena back at one point. Elena killed Jesse because saving her boyfriend was more importand than saving Caroline's new boyfriend and she couldn't even understand why Caroline didn't agree with that!
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Post by shoe20 on Nov 22, 2013 9:27:59 GMT -5
Boy is Nina on a roll this season. Katherine owned this episode start to finish. The writers are going down the road I thought they would. Writing Elena darker, less compassionate, and less like her human persona. And now their full speed ahead with Katherine's rehumanization. (word?) Yes to "Steferine" When Katherine said it would always be Stefan....she meant it. Stefan's saving her from the fall paralleled Elena and the bleachers, nicely. Then Stefan's "You are Katherine Pierce, suck it up". Her eyes did light up as he walk away. Maybe DE will have a dance and party before the season ends. Their only 0 for 2. All I'll say about Caroline is she comes by her feelings honestly. Her speech about old Elena giving Jesse a chance, was a great plot device to point out comparison/contrast with Damon's Elena/Stefan's Elena. It was nice she told Elena she overreacted, but again this was all about the writers pointing out Elena's new direction. Confusing Damon/Jesse scene...no vamp speed or hesitation for Elena to go the the stake. She's had the strength as demonstrated by her fight with Katherine. Where was Damon..heart pluck...all plucked out I guess. Damon came off as the helpless vamp ( something new) Sorry, Damon got out Damoned by the Doc and nabbed. Ironic he didn't have time to help his brother with PTSD, but now he's going to need him. At least his cell isn't filling with water and someone will be looking for him..... I'm I the only one that see what's coming.......Damon killed Arron's parents! Of course this won't matter to Elena. Her big turning point was "Graduation" and her choice.....She use to fight for Damon to "be a better man" now she accepts him with all his faults (which is what Caroline was saying)....In fact she is undeniably changing every episode. Whether you consider that progress or regression is based on your character bias. Just last year Elena tried to take her own life because she was so upset in what she was becoming.....Now it's "totally awesome" With Matt being taken off the "big bad" list by Katherine "de-Gregoring" him. I'm down to Damon's old friend and Bonnie (if the anchor thing makes her nuts) After this Episode I'm adding Damon and Elena to the list of possibilities.
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Post by Ruby on Nov 22, 2013 10:35:17 GMT -5
shoe20 I didn't think of Damon being involved in Aaron's parents death. The question if he was involved is why? I don't know if I want to see that happen. Not unless it was revenge out something.
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Post by shoe20 on Nov 22, 2013 12:02:51 GMT -5
shoe20 I didn't think of Damon being involved in Aaron's parents death. The question if he was involved is why? I don't know if I want to see that happen. Not unless it was revenge out something. That's not all....it could also involve Elena's dad and probably does. Timings right and it's just what TVD writer's like to do .... tie past events to present with the most SL impact. Maybe Damon was being experimented on by Elena's dad and acted because he was controlled....lot's of possible scenarios...I just see a connection to be made.
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Post by napoli on Nov 22, 2013 12:29:39 GMT -5
This episode was better than I thought it would be considering Tessa, Silas and Amara were all killed off so quickly. Silas never really turned out to be the 'big bad'. No one can ever fill Klaus' shoes or it seems to even come close to him. The Stefan and Katherine moments were great. Katherine is the Elena that I miss full of empathy and compassion for others. I have nothing new to add because Kiki, Ruby and shoe20 have all perfectly expressed how I felt about this episode.
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Post by Kiki on Nov 22, 2013 12:52:19 GMT -5
not sure what the spoilers hinted so far but could it be possible that Elena's "father" did similar experiments on vampires as Dr Wes does? And if Damon was one of those and escaped... well maybe he killed Elena's parents because of revenge? Maybe he caused the accident with one of his famous dead man lying on the street tricks?
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Post by deb on Nov 22, 2013 19:06:12 GMT -5
shoe20, Kiki, I think that SL of Damon killing Elena's father is very possible. stelena4ever shared that theory with us this week and I thought it made sense but it was probably just wishful thinking from SE fans. Now, after this episode, and Damon's search for revenge (we know Elena's father has a connection with the augustine vampire), and everyone saying that DE are going to have problems, I think that's a real option here but, at the same time, would the writers go this far? Because, I knoe Elena changed, a lot, but would se be able to forgive her father's killer?!?
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Post by katvolley13 on Nov 22, 2013 19:06:41 GMT -5
I bet Damon killed Elena's parents
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Post by deb on Nov 22, 2013 19:50:00 GMT -5
Stefan's saving her from the fall paralleled Elena and the bleachers, nicely. Then Stefan's "You are Katherine Pierce, suck it up". Her eyes did light up as he walk away. @shoe, that was a great paralel that I was missing: Another great paralel was in this scene: Remember when Caroline turned and Damon tried to kill her? Elena and Stefan gave her a chance and now she's a great vampire... But, THIS Elena and Damon didn't give Jesse a chance.
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Post by stelena4ever on Nov 22, 2013 22:29:48 GMT -5
I only rated this episode a 2 because too much predictable Damon stuff and not enough Stefan.
Though I loved the Stefan/Katherine scenes.
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Post by napoli on Nov 22, 2013 23:59:03 GMT -5
Stefan's saving her from the fall paralleled Elena and the bleachers, nicely. Then Stefan's "You are Katherine Pierce, suck it up". Her eyes did light up as he walk away. @shoe, that was a great paralel that I was missing: Another great paralel was in this scene: Remember when Caroline turned and Damon tried to kill her? Elena and Stefan gave her a chance and now she's a great vampire... But, THIS Elena and Damon didn't give Jesse a chance. Also Caroline gave Elena a chance too. Remember when Elena almost fed from and could have killed an injured April in the Church? Caroline talked her through it and had Elena feed April to heal her because Connor had stabbed her and had Elena compel April to make her forget. Caroline did the same thing with Jessie. She had him feed Aaron his blood to heal him and then compel him so I think the parallel of Caroline helping Elena with April was also at play for this scene.
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Post by Kiki on Nov 23, 2013 1:11:13 GMT -5
your thoughts are all amazing. i love this forum so much. it makes watching tvd so much better
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Post by shoe20 on Nov 23, 2013 9:36:49 GMT -5
shoe20, Kiki, I think that SL of Damon killing Elena's father is very possible. stelena4ever shared that theory with us this week and I thought it made sense but it was probably just wishful thinking from SE fans. Now, after this episode, and Damon's search for revenge (we know Elena's father has a connection with the augustine vampire), and everyone saying that DE are going to have problems, I think that's a real option here but, at the same time, would the writers go this far? Because, I knoe Elena changed, a lot, but would se be able to forgive her father's killer?!? Sure....no problem for Elena.... He turned and slept with her mother...killed her brother....and has tried several times to kill everyone she knows..... Face it Damon's "teflon coated" when it comes to bad behavior sticking, and presently Elena has given up the idea of making him a "better man" and just accepted him for who he is. (that's the biggest part of the "worst choice") What's going to drive Elena nuts right now is she's going to realize that even though Stefan considers her the "love of his life" he CAN live without her....unlike Damon who NEEDS her...his confession at the cabin before Stefan woke rather than "you are my life" more accurately should have been "you are my humanity" Yea, dark Damons coming.
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