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Post by Kiki on Oct 18, 2013 10:58:14 GMT -5
I must admit after the first two ratings I was a little worried but this episode hit like a bomb... WOW
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Post by Ruby on Oct 18, 2013 11:28:55 GMT -5
I wanted to state some unnoticed or unappreciated scenes that happened yesterday!
Matt was a vessel for the dead traveler and spoke in a weird language! kind of hot though lol He also blacked out during that time and did some digging.
Nadia: What exactly is Nadia? Is she a Vampire? Because her eyes went a little dark in the fight scene with Damon/Elena and she sped off faster then a witch or human. Also what is Nadia's plan and part in this whole story.
Elena: Elena saved Katherine and then they had a semi type heart to heart in the woods. Anyone thought Katherine wanted Elena's sweater because she was actually cold or because she wanted to play off as Elena...
Katherine: Did Katherine actually Thank Elena? Human is growing on you Kat.
Silas: What is Silas' power now without being able to read minds/? what will be his plan and my favorite Silas Line of the night: Even though you look just like my true love, the thought of your face makes me want to vomit. Which by the way Katherine didnt know nothing about SIlas true love being a Petrova.
Damon: I give props to Damon this episode. One we were all mostly mislead by the Web Clip. He in fact ended up asking Elena what was her dream about because even though it bothers him he knows its about his brother and its more then coincidence that these dreams are happening.
He also had the chance to leave Stefan behind with Qetsiyah for no one to know. A very tempted offer I might add for him but he declined because he did want his brother back and knew that decision could easily blow up in his face if he took her up on the offer.
Qetsiyah: But why would Qetsiyah want to keep Stefan? For her hold on Silas or was she just testing Damon? After Damon's failed attack on Qetsiyah, she just vanished and didnt bother to take Stefan with her. Was she just stalling for Katherine's sake There must be more to her plan that we know so far.
Must I also add that Qetsiyah planted the "DREAM" for both Elena and Katherine. But I'm taking she did not plant the Pit in Elena's stomach that there was something wrong with Stefan...because Katherine was not having these feelings...she just mentioned the dream.
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Post by napoli on Oct 18, 2013 13:22:56 GMT -5
What a great episode! We finally get to see Quetsiyah and what her motives are. I love her already! Although if the story is true, then what an ass Silas was and doesn't he deserve to be miserable? I hope we get to see Amara's perspective but she didn't deserve to be butchered. We never saw her body so perhaps Amara really isn't dead. What I don't get is why Amara, who drank from the cup of immortality then had the cure and then died, wouldn't go to the supernatural holding spot behind the veil like Quetsiyah? Or does the fact that Silas and Quetsiyah are travellers mean that all witches are travellers and this is why they would go behind the veil and not Amara? Kudos to Damon for not abandoning Stefan when Tessa offered to hide him so Damon and Elena could be together without interuption. I'm so happy that Stefan wasn't the ripper. Even though the killed the first guy he encountered, he resisted butchering the bartender and he tried warning Tessa in fear he would hurt her. It was interesting how Silas was vicious with Katherine given she looks like his true love. Good point with Amara's body. Silas became immortal > nature created ONE doppelgänger who can die instead to keep the balance. So why does Amara have TWO doppelgängers? Did she become immortal, took the cure died and came back as a new immortal? Hence two doppelgängers needed for her? I don't think nature's balance is ok with 2 doppelgängers of the same kind running around. There has to be a reason for this About Stefans amnesia. Tessa offered Damon do hide Stefan so Damon wouldn't be disturbed with having sex with Elena. So do you think she took Stefan's memory instead now? Because she sees her and Damon's destiny connected? Great points especially the motive for taking away Stefan's memories. Maybe there is a reason SE need to be apart for whatever plan Tessa has. Technically Tessa would have been able to get out when Bonnie dropped the veil so when DE had their love confession even though the sire bond was gone who says Tessa didn't interfere with Elena's choice in order to keep SE apart. As you said, who knows maybe Tessa going to go after Stefan. Who could blame her?
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Post by Kiki on Oct 18, 2013 14:44:57 GMT -5
Good point with Amara's body. Silas became immortal > nature created ONE doppelgänger who can die instead to keep the balance. So why does Amara have TWO doppelgängers? Did she become immortal, took the cure died and came back as a new immortal? Hence two doppelgängers needed for her? I don't think nature's balance is ok with 2 doppelgängers of the same kind running around. There has to be a reason for this About Stefans amnesia. Tessa offered Damon do hide Stefan so Damon wouldn't be disturbed with having sex with Elena. So do you think she took Stefan's memory instead now? Because she sees her and Damon's destiny connected? Great points especially the motive for taking away Stefan's memories. Maybe there is a reason SE need to be apart for whatever plan Tessa has. Technically Tessa would have been able to get out when Bonnie dropped the veil so when DE had their love confession even though the sire bond was gone who says Tessa didn't interfere with Elena's choice in order to keep SE apart. As you said, who knows maybe Tessa going to go after Stefan. Who could blame her? or the doppelgängers are doomed to fall in love and get broken up by someone who comes between them. And Stefan and Elena will be the first who's love is strong enough to find their way back together
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Post by napoli on Oct 18, 2013 15:01:30 GMT -5
Great points especially the motive for taking away Stefan's memories. Maybe there is a reason SE need to be apart for whatever plan Tessa has. Technically Tessa would have been able to get out when Bonnie dropped the veil so when DE had their love confession even though the sire bond was gone who says Tessa didn't interfere with Elena's choice in order to keep SE apart. As you said, who knows maybe Tessa going to go after Stefan. Who could blame her? or the doppelgängers are doomed to fall in love and get broken up by someone who comes between them. And Stefan and Elena will be the first who's love is strong enough to find their way back together You know it got me thinking about how strong Stefan is that he was able to resist turning off his humanity by Klaus so he wouldn't hurt Elena and then how Stefan was drowning for 3 months and still didn't turn off his humanity. It's the foundation of Stefan being able to resist and being strong. It is possible that it was Q's intention to break up every new generation of doppelgangers. I hope they go into what happened with Q and Amara. It just seems really cruel to be her handmaiden, help Q plan and arrange her wedding only to take off with her fiancee. Its just such a b***y thing to do.
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Post by Kiki on Oct 18, 2013 15:44:03 GMT -5
or the doppelgängers are doomed to fall in love and get broken up by someone who comes between them. And Stefan and Elena will be the first who's love is strong enough to find their way back together You know it got me thinking about how strong Stefan is that he was able to resist turning off his humanity by Klaus so he wouldn't hurt Elena and then how Stefan was drowning for 3 months and still didn't turn off his humanity. It's the foundation of Stefan being able to resist and being strong. It is possible that it was Q's intention to break up every new generation of doppelgangers. I hope they go into what happened with Q and Amara. It just seems really cruel to be her handmaiden, help Q plan and arrange her wedding only to take off with her fiancee. Its just such a b***y thing to do. we know the story Silas told Shane and we know the story how Quetsia told it to Stefan ... maybe both were turning the facts a little to for their benefit? Maybe the truth is a mix of both. What if Silas and Amara were in love and Quetsiyah used a sirebond spell to make Silas fall for her but his love for Amara was so strong that he went back to her. Does that sound familiar?
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Post by deb on Oct 18, 2013 16:22:40 GMT -5
TVD 5x03 ratings adjusted up 2.93 million viewers!
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Post by napoli on Oct 18, 2013 16:25:28 GMT -5
You know it got me thinking about how strong Stefan is that he was able to resist turning off his humanity by Klaus so he wouldn't hurt Elena and then how Stefan was drowning for 3 months and still didn't turn off his humanity. It's the foundation of Stefan being able to resist and being strong. It is possible that it was Q's intention to break up every new generation of doppelgangers. I hope they go into what happened with Q and Amara. It just seems really cruel to be her handmaiden, help Q plan and arrange her wedding only to take off with her fiancee. Its just such a b***y thing to do. we know the story Silas told Shane and we know the story how Quetsia told it to Stefan ... maybe both were turning the facts a little to for their benefit? Maybe the truth is a mix of both. What if Silas and Amara were in love and Quetsiyah used a sirebond spell to make Silas fall for her but his love for Amara was so strong that he went back to her. Does that sound familiar? You'd think after all these years Q would just let it go but I suppose that's not what villains do. There has to be more to the story. I'm sure you're right that each has told their own version of the story. I just have a feeling that Amara will be back next and then we'll get her version.
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Post by Kiki on Oct 18, 2013 16:35:58 GMT -5
Stefan loses his memory and the sypnosis for next episode starts with "While Mystic Falls observes its traditional REMEMBRANCE Day..."
Already remembranceday for stefan?
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Post by Slash on Oct 18, 2013 18:29:45 GMT -5
I'll probably do the whole doppelganger thing in another thread but I'm kind of concerned about it if they don't have all of it written out yet.
I was annoyed this episode with the triangle stuff but that's nothing new. Damon being concerned about his girlfriend dreaming about his brother (who he keeps referring to as ex-bf) and then Katherine gets in on it (and enjoys rubbing it in to both of them) but we find out it's Tessa doing all this, then we have to get the obvious look on Damon's face when he looks at Elena & Stefan together again, + the plug that now Damon & Elena are going to fight the 'destiny' that Tessa was talking about with the doppelgangers supposed to meet/be drawn together.
As for the Travelers, I'm assuming they're their own offshoot of sorts. Silas is immortal, not as strong/fast as a Vampire but has mental capabilities. Vampires are an offshoot of Silas/immortality: need blood all the same but lacks the mental abilities but makes up for it in strength and speed. I wouldn't be surprised if Travelers are another branching of immortality to deal with Silas/Vampires/other immortals. Nadia and her friend seem to have a wide range of skills (the trick with being in Matt's head and even hiding one's spirit in him), the Vampire like abilities so I wouldn't be surprised if Travelers have 'augmented' themselves with magic or whatever to be able to handle other supernaturals but we need more info on them.
In one episode, Tessa/Quets is one of my favorite characters. Crazy works for her. So it seems like the gang is now trapped/screwed? In part due to 3 of them being doppelgangers (Stefan, Katherine, Elena) but also because it seems like they're caught between a 2000 year old love feud between Quets & Silas who are gunning for each other now it seems and want Katherine cause the cure runs through her veins, who is in the company of a rogue (?) Traveler who has her own agenda with her boyfriend who is disembodied in Matt (maybe not anymore).
So it's really interesting now but there is this nagging feeling that the doppelganger angle is going to fall apart. I'm just having a problem matching up the pairs.
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Post by katvolley13 on Oct 19, 2013 12:14:29 GMT -5
The CW's VAMPIRE DIARIES climbs to a 1.3 A18-49 at 8 p.m. last night, beating both ABC's WONDERLAND and NBC's comedies. Dang. Retweeted by Brian Young Stefan's back ratings rise... so tell me about Delena now It may have been due to Tessa from true blood as well although I vote for Stefen too!
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Post by napoli on Oct 19, 2013 13:40:30 GMT -5
I'll probably do the whole doppelganger thing in another thread but I'm kind of concerned about it if they don't have all of it written out yet. I was annoyed this episode with the triangle stuff but that's nothing new. Damon being concerned about his girlfriend dreaming about his brother (who he keeps referring to as ex-bf) and then Katherine gets in on it (and enjoys rubbing it in to both of them) but we find out it's Tessa doing all this, then we have to get the obvious look on Damon's face when he looks at Elena & Stefan together again, + the plug that now Damon & Elena are going to fight the 'destiny' that Tessa was talking about with the doppelgangers supposed to meet/be drawn together. As for the Travelers, I'm assuming they're their own offshoot of sorts. Silas is immortal, not as strong/fast as a Vampire but has mental capabilities. Vampires are an offshoot of Silas/immortality: need blood all the same but lacks the mental abilities but makes up for it in strength and speed. I wouldn't be surprised if Travelers are another branching of immortality to deal with Silas/Vampires/other immortals. Nadia and her friend seem to have a wide range of skills (the trick with being in Matt's head and even hiding one's spirit in him), the Vampire like abilities so I wouldn't be surprised if Travelers have 'augmented' themselves with magic or whatever to be able to handle other supernaturals but we need more info on them. In one episode, Tessa/Quets is one of my favorite characters. Crazy works for her. So it seems like the gang is now trapped/screwed? In part due to 3 of them being doppelgangers (Stefan, Katherine, Elena) but also because it seems like they're caught between a 2000 year old love feud between Quets & Silas who are gunning for each other now it seems and want Katherine cause the cure runs through her veins, who is in the company of a rogue (?) Traveler who has her own agenda with her boyfriend who is disembodied in Matt (maybe not anymore). So it's really interesting now but there is this nagging feeling that the doppelganger angle is going to fall apart. I'm just having a problem matching up the pairs. When the culling happens it'll be easier to match up whoever is left over.
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Post by Slash on Oct 19, 2013 14:21:26 GMT -5
The CW's VAMPIRE DIARIES climbs to a 1.3 A18-49 at 8 p.m. last night, beating both ABC's WONDERLAND and NBC's comedies. Dang. Retweeted by Brian Young Stefan's back ratings rise... so tell me about Delena now It may have been due to Tessa from true blood as well although I vote for Stefen too! I enjoyed her character of Luna on True Blood (was sad to see her go but the show is winding down anyways) and also what little time she had on Arrow. So having her play such a huge and interesting character on TVD is nice to see. Stefan being back is also nice to see which I assume is the same for some fans to see what happens now with him. I was surprised to see he didn't shut it off after 3 months and even after killing the guy who retrieved him, he never let entirely go and was able to hold it together (telling the bartender to run instead of gorging himself and moving onto the next prey). Still kind of wondering about Tessa. She said she came back for him and aside from being crazy, she wipes his mind entirely of his past with 2 doppelgangers which we know she has a problem with due to her own relationship with Silas & Amara. I know in the preview it shows Stefan & Elena starting anew since he's mind wiped but what are the chances Tessa wiped Stefan's mind to get her 'Silas', but without the luggage (not being Silas but having the same appearance and nicer overall). Tessa + Stefan? Silas is a lost cause and with how obsessed she's been on the other side still for 2000 years...
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Post by Ruby on Oct 19, 2013 14:39:35 GMT -5
I really think Tessa is going to be the one that we need to worry about. Seriously what the heck can Silas do now without his mind power...Can he still change faces?
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Post by YouTubersGossip on Oct 19, 2013 14:45:22 GMT -5
I really think Tessa is going to be the one that we need to worry about. Seriously what the heck can Silas do now without his mind power...Can he still change faces? I dont think he can cause him changing identity's was just an illusion
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