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Post by Ruby on Oct 10, 2013 18:28:55 GMT -5
True Lies Episode #502 TVD 5x01 Season Premiere Roundtable! Share your thoughts!
Lets come together to share our thoughts about tonight's episode! =)
All TVD Fans Welcomed including Exclusive Ship fans lol Lets discuss:
What did you Like? What you did not like? What was your favorite scene/quote? What scene was the most shocking to you or caught you off guard? And any additional thoughts!ONLY RULES* When replying to someone's response please be polite. =) You can nicely state why you might disagree without saying "well you're wrong" or "I dont like your opinion" Lets stick to the episode topic xoxo
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Post by katvolley13 on Oct 10, 2013 20:41:41 GMT -5
I loved this episode it gave me hope for vampire diaries returning to the well how it should be.
What I liked : Katherine and Jeremy- I think that Jeremy showing Katherine compassion after she murdered him was amazing and something she needs to hopefully learn from. Not sure if this is going to be a friendship or just a redemption thing for Katherine but I liked the writers doing this. I liked showing us the other side when matt died and what was going on with matt. I loved caroline saying ok we need to set ground rules I laughed so hard!!!! I loved all of the elena wanting to kill damon and everything she said to him even if it wore off later I enjoyed it thouroughly. I think the writers are smart to make SE's happy by saying all that should happen and logic and then doing DE stuff too. I think tough this can only goon for so long before a fandom is going to catch on that they are just stringing us both along for ratings. I however enjoy the smartness of how they are doing it at least.
What I did not like was Katherine having a cold and complaining. I enjoyed seeing her becoming a fighter. This is a girl who ran from a original while human. I get that she is not use to it but we get it already. I do not like that elena forgave damon so quickly but I am use to nothing making sense at this point. I do not like that the preview said the ripper is back??? I do not want to see the ripper. If we are going to see the ripper that is a recycled story. My favorite quote was as said above when caroline came in and said we are going to have to set some ground rules lol. I enjoyed when Katherine shot silus.
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Post by Kiki on Oct 10, 2013 23:10:12 GMT -5
Anyone else thought the Delena-kiss at the end felt like the rooftop szene in Season 4? The beginning of the end ;-) I loved that finally the real Elena showed up. At least for a tiny little moment when she realized that she is dating a serial killer. What I didn't like was that she forgot about this so fast. But the real Elena is still in there. There is hope :-) I loved Jeremy and Katherine. Although she killed him he is showing sympathy and gave her the blanket and the look on Katherine's face was amazing. This must have been the first time in ages that somebody did something nice to her. I'd love to see Katherine learning what it means to care for someone. Also loved to see parts of the other side. Cannot wait to see dead characters again, too.
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Post by Slash on Oct 10, 2013 23:45:05 GMT -5
High points for me were Katherine and the Matt/Bonnie stuff along with getting some more info on what happened to Matt last episode. Low points...didn't care for the Damon-Elena stuff. Damon's lies are coming out about Silas, Jeremy, knowing Stefan is in trouble, etc. and Elena is using that to fuel Silas' compulsion. However, at the end, they're all lovey dovey again and tip-toeing around triangle stuff. Oh, we'll get Stefan back but I'll still love you all the same. Oh, it's OK but I don't like it you're dreaming/connected to my brother
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Post by shoe20 on Oct 11, 2013 0:08:48 GMT -5
Nina owned this ep with her Katherine, she was great, but Silas was a close second. First is there any character on the series that has had it tougher than Bonnie, she hasn't caught a break for 5 yrs. Nice scenes with Matt and Jeremy
What's is this Matt has a storyline? Say it isn't so. lol They finally starting to give him something to do other than sidekick. "Liaison to the other side." How are you going to deal with your father's death until you deal with your own. (some serious good lines for Matt) And now we have Matt and Jeremy impervious to Stilas control.
Hey, why couldn't Damon jump in the quarry and find Stefan??? We know he can swim - can't die - So tough to look around in the water where the road stops at the falls - the obvious place to dump a body. Is logic dead or Damon lazy?
Stilas was great at college with Elena (TVD and he probably miss a shot by not showing up as Damon - Bet Damon would think twice before he kept something important from Elena again - lol) Stilas is definitely agenda driven to say the least. After he dishes Damon's secrets to Elena - he had an interesting smile when he told her he knew what she was thinking, probably something to gouge Damon with later.
On to the bondage scene. Damon gets off pretty easy for all his not lies. But the thing that has to brother him was it took something stronger than Elena's love for him to overcome the compulsion..... Stefan.....(nice bone to throw SE Mz Dries) How weird is it that once again Stefan saved his life, and he wasn't even there!!!
Jeremy had some better lines too. I really liked his exchanges with both Bonnie and Katherine. Especially when Kat told Jeremy how she survived for 500 yrs by walking away and his come back "That's why people treat you like an object and not a person" really made an impact on her. Then her comeback was to save his life by shooting Silas.(Kat's a gunslinger, who knew?)
Silas in the quick mart when he slammed down the cup and said "fill it up" ......just funny.
So DE finishes up with the "all's forgiven kiss" and Damon telling himself as much as Elena he not worried about the strength of their love, as she puts her entire life on hold to go look for Stefan!! I'd say he's not/not worried
Stefan's out of the Box - WA-hoo At least if he looses his memories he might forget some of the torture. The guy in the safe was definitely vamped on, but his head was still attached - could it be no more ripper??? (just a guess)
The obvious loose end - Someone brought him two things - on shore and a meal.
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Post by Ruby on Oct 11, 2013 11:11:42 GMT -5
Sorry I was a bit delayed in responding to this. I was too busy crying over Glee but back to TVD TimeWhat did you Like?
This episode I enjoyed alot. It seemed a bit edgier with so much going on I guess I can thank the Director for that. He also directs The Following. • Katherine/Matt/Jeremy Scenes were fantastic. - Katherine's snarky comments and Matt and Jeremy's responses were great. I loved Katherine's venting about her cold and sinas infection as well as still looking like crap while insulting elena saying she is way prettier then her. • Jeremy's sweet gesture by giving Katherine his jacket or a blanket caught Katherine by surprise and it was nice to see. • Katherine coming back to help both Jeremy and Matt was really great and on the verge of me realizing she might, she just showed up on my screen to beat me to it. •The Other Side I liked the fact they showed us a glimpse of being on the other side or more the fact of Matt being on the other side while he was temporarily dead finding his body. It was nice they tied in Esther's statements about her being there every time Alaric died. I guess he was a work in progress for her to be eventually turned into a vampire hunter. • Silas This guy was on point this episode with his comments and tactics. Giving out Truth bombs so far to both Elena and Damon have been great to see and using the fact that Elena was being lied to by Damon into his advantage of causing rage. Elena definitely must have missed Stefan alot if she gave him detail of everything he probably missed while he was gone and confided in him. I dont even think Silas influenced it. • What we learned from Silas so far that he is immortal, needs blood to survive but its not a vampire. Hes slower and less stronger. The Travelers and NadiaSO the travelers are the modern dat Gypsies? That is what Silas referred to them if im not mistaken. They are able to use people to basically see through their eyes which also causes a block of some sorts from Silas. Matt is definitely smart and dumb. He shouldve played along a little longer to see what Silas wanted him to do before warning Jeremy off. Also why exactly did they pick Matt for this job of being a spy and who and what exactly is Nadia. SHe killed the Traveler to get on SIlas good side with her own Agenda. Damon/Elena Torture Scene
Elena definitely learned from Stefan in trying to injure yourself trying to pause yourself for the compulsion. It was a nice move on Damon's part by spitting the vervained water that elena was chugging down his throat and spitting it at her. She was extremely pissed off for him lying and letting the guilt influence her rage into wanting to kill Damon. Damon used Stefan to help break her compulsion or more less distract her enough to get her mind off the rage until it dissapeared. SImilar to when Klaus and Caroline were fighting and it distracted him enough to forget about the pain he was feeling. Damon definitely used his cards right here but Elena should still on her own will told him off for lying. Im also Glad Caroline shouted her out about her Stefan dreams that he clearly was not aware of. I will also defend Damon in the department of him trying to do too many things at once. he was trying to get his brother out the quarral and then trying to save Elena from Silas' influence as well as keeping Katherine out of Silas way to then get screamed at about not finding out if Bonnie has called because of her father's situation and claiming thats her best friend etc. Damon needed to delegate but since Damon does not trust anyone especially when it comes to Elena's safety he dropped searching for Stefan and left it in the hands of Liz to find Elena. He could have called Caroline for a heads up that it wasnt stefan who was around. Professor Creepy type Hottie Part 2
Elena used the same comments about Shane back last season with Bonnie. Turns out he is part of a secret society (can i say the council part 2) which im also going to speculate that Elena's father was on the same club. The professor seems interested in Elena so looking forward to what he wants to tell her. What was your favorite scene/quote?
Definitely Katherine's - Im what everyone wants and their leverage OMG IM THE FREAKING MOONSTONE LOL and Caroline and Damon's scene when he walked into their dorm room. What scene was the most shocking to you or caught you off guard?Catching me off guard would be Matt ending up on the Other side with Bonnie. And any additional thoughts!
Yes It was heartbreaking to see Bonnie's moment with Matt and him hugging her. Its really hitting her now that she is isolated and she cant accept the fact that she is dead. The her breaking down because after so long she has someone to hug her and feel her even if its temporarily
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Post by Ruby on Oct 11, 2013 12:34:45 GMT -5
So questions regarding from last night..Why did Silas want Damon dead?
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Post by Kiki on Oct 11, 2013 12:47:38 GMT -5
So questions regarding from last night..Why did Silas want Damon dead? Because he is annoying for Silas with his white knight protecting Katherine act? More questions: Silas is perfect in outplaying Damon. How and when did Damon get the ring?
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Post by Ruby on Oct 11, 2013 12:51:34 GMT -5
So questions regarding from last night..Why did Silas want Damon dead? Because he is annoying for Silas with his white knight protecting Katherine act? More questions: Silas is perfect in outplaying Damon. How and when did Damon get the ring? not sure but like i said in the other thread it could be played off on the part tht silas is not as fast or strong as a vampire. So Damon could have snatched it quick. Another thing to mention was that Silas called Damon his long distant nephew or something like that and also mentioned he also had a thing for brunettes (or Petrovas if we want to possibly get specific)
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Post by Kiki on Oct 11, 2013 12:55:36 GMT -5
not sure but like i said in the other thread it could be played off on the part tht silas is not as fast or strong as a vampire. So Damon could have snatched it quick. Another thing to mention was that Silas called Damon his long distant nephew or something like that and also mentioned he also had a thing for brunettes (or Petrovas if we want to possibly get specific) well Tessa and Nadja are brunettes, too. Long distant nephew... so it would be Onkle Silas? lol
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 13:57:45 GMT -5
ok I watched TO and TVD three times an have been pondering a bit. What did you Like? Everything like usual I liked that Stefan got out of the vault and that they didnt keep him in there for 100 episodes. ALTHOUGH I found the hallucinations quite interesting and well done. I liked the convo between Bon and Matt. PMSL when Katherine thought she was going to die of a little sinusitis/cold. Like it that Caros and elenas friendship is intact again. What you did not like? I can't stand the new Professor dude.College professors in TVD are bad news. What the hell is Nadia up too??? What was your favorite scene/quote? When Jeremy kicked Silas a** "I'm a hunter and I work out" Carolines new groundrules, I almost cracked up laughing. What scene was the most shocking to you or caught you off guard? Not off guard, but seriously these wrist cuts that Silas is forcing people to do are freaking me out. A neck bite is one thing, but to cut tose wrists is so borderline. And any additional thoughts! well done TVD writers, keep up the good work, I am all for it. They should borrow Davina from TO to get rid of Silas
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2013 14:00:44 GMT -5
On a sidenote is shoe20 the shoe from Vampire Diaries net?
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Post by Ruby on Oct 11, 2013 14:05:38 GMT -5
On a sidenote is shoe20 the shoe from Vampire Diaries net? Yes he is =)
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Post by shoe20 on Oct 11, 2013 14:06:47 GMT -5
Hey quotes of the Ep IMO Elena: "He's been suffering for months while I’ve been rolling around with you, a self-proclaimed serial killer" and "I just left, what the hells wrong with you?" Caroline: "I think we need to set some ground rules for when boyfriends come to visit" Jeremy: "That's why they treat you like an object, and not a person." Matt: "I'm sorry your father died, but how are you going to with his death, if you can't even deal with your own" Katherine: "I'm the thing that everybody wants......I'm the freaking moonstone" Silas (at the convenience store): "Fill it up" and "Cockiness masking fear...how transparent." Damon(trying to save his life and break the compulsion) think about something stronger the your anger: "Stefan-tell me about Stefan"(para) He didn't go with "your love for me" did he? Too great that E's deep connection w/Sef saved their lives, and Stefan was still in a box. lol CD is throwing out the SE bones hoping shore up the numbers. lol
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Post by teppy1 on Oct 11, 2013 17:29:10 GMT -5
Parts I liked
- Bonnie and Matt --all of their scenes. - Jeremy being awesome - Katherine gaining a heart and saving jeremy - Silas (love hate thing with him) - Elena fighting her compulsion and her giving Damon some truth in the process
Parts I didn't like:
- Damon consistently calling Stefan Elena's ex-boyfriend instead of his brother or just Stefan. - Damon not really doing much about his brother being missing.
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