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Post by deb on Oct 17, 2013 14:58:08 GMT -5
- I still think ripper Stefan from the bar was only a dream, where elena and katherine are going to participate. - Stefan isn't a ripper , he killed the man who saved him because he was starving and crazy from the hell he was for 3 months. It's not ok that he killed that man but I can understand why he did it. what matters the most is that he told Tessa to run away to save her and she said he had a conscience so he's still the Stefie I like and, with his flawless hero hair you still think the ripper is just a dream? The way CW is promoting it right now I'm not so sure anymore Why? Is there any news about it, Kiki? Ripper Stefan wouldn't care if he killed Tessa or not so I don't think he's a ripper, he told her to run so he wouldn't hurt her
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Post by shoe20 on Oct 17, 2013 18:21:24 GMT -5
I would like to know and hear everyone's input. Why do you think Damon keeps referring to Stefan as Elena's ex boyfriend rather then his brother? I think it probably makes him feel less guilty? Pretty simple for me Ruby, Damon is jealous and scared to death of loosing Elena. He's threatened by a guy that's not even there, except in Elena's dreams. How could a guy whose "never had his love returned" act any differently. The "ex-boyfriend" is to remind himself of Stefan's status...... as much as Elena. Damon is going to hold on with both hands to what he thinks he has. Besides, referring to Stefan as "brother" is a constant reminder of his guilt for how he "got the girl". I see a possibility that Damon could actually change and be redeemed, but I haven't seen it yet. Thus far everything he's said and done has been to get and keep what he feels he has. Sry, I haven't seen the big change in Damon yet, because S4 ended with him still in the "not sorry" frame of mind. Is he doing things differently? YES, but it's because he's trying hard to not F it up. Even the emotional scene after Jeremy's death in the car wreck, was more relief in not having to face Elena with the news, than honest feelings for Jeremy. IMO My Guess.... Tessa is the one that saved Stefan....the guy was nothing more than a first meal....Stefan doesn't remember Tessa because of memory loss. (probably temporary), but it will go for Damon and Elena too. The 4x10 wish to Becka will come true, at least short term. This "ripper" is totally different from S3. No dismemberment...Just hunger....which will show he's conquered his beast!!! Boy, guess I put myself on record with that. lololo =) How can you not love a guy that's died and dessicated for 3 months and his hair still looks great. That's just untouchable in hero lore. haha
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Post by katvolley13 on Oct 17, 2013 20:29:15 GMT -5
So Tessa takes his memory I wonder why??
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Post by Ruby on Oct 17, 2013 21:10:32 GMT -5
Tessa fried his brain and his sub conscience i think she knew exactly what she was doing
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Post by shoe20 on Oct 17, 2013 23:36:59 GMT -5
Still working on the synopsis, but I'll comment on the new upcoming triangle. Anyone out there see the "Elena, Katherine, Stefan" possibility??? Stefan, with no memory will be drawn to both....when he finds out Damon's his brother....Elena's Damon's GF.(we get to see how Stefan acts in the same situation)....Katherine makes the obvious move on Stefan....The question is "will Elena be jealous or not? " or continue to fight her feelings for Stefan, and stay with choice #2. It was also obvious Elena stopped herself kissing Damon when Stefan woke. Now she now has no reason to feel guilty or restrain herself because Stefan has no memory of their 3 yrs together.......will she ever kiss Damon in Stefan's presence? ? My guess is no! Elena acting strange with Damon in Stefan's presence (when they both know his memory is gone)..... will be a serious problem for Damon. lolol What a tangled web they weave.....This could be a serious "pretzel" plot twist. Maybe they'll write an interlude of Caroline/Stefan to see Elena's response, before they get to Katherine. Damon any way they go better get happy with the "middle" cause he's gona be right there. Of course we'll find out that's where the "Universe" planned for him to be..........My head hurts!!!
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Post by stelena4ever on Oct 18, 2013 8:53:22 GMT -5
I was right, Tessa is Quetsyah.
I love that Tessa erased Stefan's memories. Now Stefan can start fresh, fall in love with Elena all over again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2013 12:26:04 GMT -5
I am going to rewatch season 4 again. Have to listen carefully to Shane etc. Seems like I missed something here about the Silas/Quetsiyah/mythology. Boy am I fried. </img>
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Post by YouTubersGossip on Oct 18, 2013 22:38:37 GMT -5
Okay so I'm so freaking confused
So if Elena and Kathrine's Doppelganger line is suppose to end up with Silas and Stefan's Doppelganger line does that mean Kathrine or Elena will not have a happy ending.
Cause if you think about it, there's Kathrine and Elena and only one Stefan, Whoever Stefan chooses to be with then there will be one Petrova doppelganger left without her own Stefan if that makes sense.
And it would make sense for Stefan to go with Kathrine since they were meant to be first, not him and Elena. Is there a possibility that there's another Stefan specifically for Elena from her generation.
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Post by napoli on Oct 18, 2013 23:35:13 GMT -5
Okay so I'm so freaking confused So if Elena and Kathrine's Doppelganger line is suppose to end up with Silas and Stefan's Doppelganger line does that mean Kathrine or Elena will not have a happy ending. Cause if you think about it, there's Kathrine and Elena and only one Stefan, Whoever Stefan chooses to be with then there will be one Petrova doppelganger left without her own Stefan if that makes sense. And it would make sense for Stefan to go with Kathrine since they were meant to be first, not him and Elena. Is there a possibility that there's another Stefan specifically for Elena from her generation. Technically Stefan isn't from Katherine's time period either. For all we know Katherine could have known a Stefan/Silas while in Bulgaria. Katherine always seems to be one step ahead so it's possible that she found out about Stefan in 1864 - there were photos back then for the wealthy at least - through a published photo and then sought him out. The doppelganger connection doesn't mean they all have to pair up. It may be an intense draw to each other as with Stefan/Katherine and Stefan/Elena but nothing says they have to be together forever. SK will never end up together and right now Elena is with Damon. If the doppelganger force is supposed to be destiny or fate for forever it didn't do a very good job with SK or SE. Although I would personally love to see a fight to the death between Kat and Elena but this time over Stefan, logically that won't happen so either there is a pairing up either SK or SE or they each find their respective non-doppelganger significant others.
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Post by Ruby on Oct 18, 2013 23:35:52 GMT -5
Okay so I'm so freaking confused So if Elena and Kathrine's Doppelganger line is suppose to end up with Silas and Stefan's Doppelganger line does that mean Kathrine or Elena will not have a happy ending. Cause if you think about it, there's Kathrine and Elena and only one Stefan, Whoever Stefan chooses to be with then there will be one Petrova doppelganger left without her own Stefan if that makes sense. And it would make sense for Stefan to go with Kathrine since they were meant to be first, not him and Elena. Is there a possibility that there's another Stefan specifically for Elena from her generation. Yea it's really confusing because if we get technical Katherine was not part of stefans generation and stefan want supposed to be part of Elenas.
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Post by YouTubersGossip on Oct 18, 2013 23:39:07 GMT -5
Very well said guys
But still confused just a little
At least my headache is gone
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Post by YouTubersGossip on Oct 19, 2013 1:48:31 GMT -5
Also i suspected that Kathrine's blood would be a cure since she took it so it would be in her blood stream, But i was hoping not so there would be a chance for her to become a vampire again but it looks like that wont happen any time soon or ever.
Also since she is technically human again wouldn't that mean Klaus could use her blood to create more hybrids again or would her Vampire curing blood not allow that. I dont remeber much about the whole Petrova blood line being able to make hybrids for Klaus so i probably forgot something that would explain this.
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Post by Kiki on Oct 19, 2013 2:16:11 GMT -5
Maybe nature got out of balance because there are 2 female doppelgängers which means one of them will have to die?
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Post by YouTubersGossip on Oct 19, 2013 2:18:36 GMT -5
Maybe nature got out of balance because there are 2 female doppelgängers which means one of them will have to die? Or maybe there was 2 Tree doppelgangers and nature hired Jeremy the tree hunter to pimp slap one of them to put nature back on balance
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Post by Kiki on Oct 19, 2013 2:35:14 GMT -5
What I don't get is the whole Qetsiyah, Silas, Amara story happened before any original or vampire was created. So how does that go along with the hunterstoryline from last season? Why do hunters kill vampires and get the map to find Silas on their skin? When did Tessa create that spell or was it even Tessa? It must have been 1000 years after she burried Silas since it includes vampires which weren't created at the time Silas and Amara fell in love, right? The hunters were created to find the cure and kill Silas. If we believe what Tessa said that was her goal. Kill Silas before the veil is open so he'd be doomed to spend eternity on the other side with her. But why do the hunters have to kill vampires to get the map? Why wouldn't she make it easier for them to find the cure if that's what she wanted? So did someone else hide the map and used the vampires as kind of guard for it because they would fight to not get killed and unknowingly help to hide the map. Maybe Amara who wants to reunite with Silas...
I guess I better post this in the theories thread to discuss it some more
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