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Post by Ruby on Aug 30, 2014 12:15:04 GMT -5
Yes, a woman his age (theoretically). That's always been my wish for Damon. The guy was an adult who'd seen a little of the world and fought in a war before getting turned. He went through the the disappointment of betrayal by a more powerful woman. He's past a relationship with a teenage girl. I preferred Rose, too. She knew how to tell him 'no' when needed. Damon needs lines drawn in the sand to keep him in check. Elena wasn't up for the challenge he presented. As an aside, I sort of wanted to see what Liz would do with him. You're right. For all the crap people spew at Elena and her relationship with Damon, they tend to leave out one important fact: she's a teenage girl! And because she's a teenage and not a grown woman, she's going to make mistakes. A lot of them! Damon is the one that should know better. He's the real "adult" (using that term lightly) in the relationship. technically there is suppose to be a 6 year age difference between the two characters right? isn't damon suppose to be 24
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Post by shoe20 on Aug 30, 2014 12:30:27 GMT -5
You're right. For all the crap people spew at Elena and her relationship with Damon, they tend to leave out one important fact: she's a teenage girl! And because she's a teenage and not a grown woman, she's going to make mistakes. A lot of them! Damon is the one that should know better. He's the real "adult" (using that term lightly) in the relationship. technically there is suppose to be a 6 year age difference between the two characters right? isn't damon suppose to be 24 Funny Ruby, I thought Damon was 164 .... Which reality are we talking about?
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Post by shoe20 on Aug 30, 2014 12:38:09 GMT -5
You're right. For all the crap people spew at Elena and her relationship with Damon, they tend to leave out one important fact: she's a teenage girl! And because she's a teenage and not a grown woman, she's going to make mistakes. A lot of them! Damon is the one that should know better. He's the real "adult" (using that term lightly) in the relationship. technically there is suppose to be a 6 year age difference between the two characters right? isn't damon suppose to be 24 Funny Ruby, I thought Damon was 164 ... Isn't that the real reality ... He was dating an older woman Katherine (500), but there aren't many women that fit the same age category...... I know @dman24's point was a mature man (real mature in years, not much else) and a teenage girl still finding her way.... makes sense to me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2014 12:53:56 GMT -5
You're right. For all the crap people spew at Elena and her relationship with Damon, they tend to leave out one important fact: she's a teenage girl! And because she's a teenage and not a grown woman, she's going to make mistakes. A lot of them! Damon is the one that should know better. He's the real "adult" (using that term lightly) in the relationship. technically there is suppose to be a 6 year age difference between the two characters right? isn't damon suppose to be 24 I was speaking more about Damon's life experience as an immortal "adult", which far out weighs Elena's. He should be a lot more mature than he is now. Sort of the way Stefan is.
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Post by napoli on Aug 30, 2014 13:22:45 GMT -5
But I thought men matured later than women so technically Damon and Elena are the same maturity age.
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Post by shoe20 on Aug 30, 2014 13:56:35 GMT -5
But I thought men matured later than women so technically Damon and Elena are the same maturity age. Bullseye ... You must have taken you "funny" pill this morn. LMAO
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Post by jennifer on Aug 31, 2014 10:26:58 GMT -5
Yes, a woman his age (theoretically). That's always been my wish for Damon. The guy was an adult who'd seen a little of the world and fought in a war before getting turned. He went through the the disappointment of betrayal by a more powerful woman. He's past a relationship with a teenage girl. I preferred Rose, too. She knew how to tell him 'no' when needed. Damon needs lines drawn in the sand to keep him in check. Elena wasn't up for the challenge he presented. As an aside, I sort of wanted to see what Liz would do with him. You're right. For all the crap people spew at Elena and her relationship with Damon, they tend to leave out one important fact: she's a teenage girl! And because she's a teenage and not a grown woman, she's going to make mistakes. A lot of them! Damon is the one that should know better. He's the real "adult" (using that term lightly) in the relationship. Exactly! Elena's more mature than Damon so it's easy to forget her age. She's not doing anything a 16-18 y.o. girl wouldn't do, including falling for the the tallish, dark and handsome bad boy who pursued her since she was 16 or 17. Elena is in a weird position: she's a teenager and very young woman, yet she started taking care of herself (more or less) after her parents died, and is supposed to be the mature guardian of her younger brother. You see both parts in her decisions and actions. It works for the plot for Elena to be independent at a young age, but her character takes hits for her inconsistency.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 11:41:44 GMT -5
You're right. For all the crap people spew at Elena and her relationship with Damon, they tend to leave out one important fact: she's a teenage girl! And because she's a teenage and not a grown woman, she's going to make mistakes. A lot of them! Damon is the one that should know better. He's the real "adult" (using that term lightly) in the relationship. Exactly! Elena's more mature than Damon so it's easy to forget her age. She's not doing anything a 16-18 y.o. girl wouldn't do, including falling for the the tallish, dark and handsome bad boy who pursued her since she was 16 or 17. Elena is in a weird position: she's a teenager and very young woman, yet she started taking care of herself (more or less) after her parents died, and is supposed to be the mature guardian of her younger brother. You see both parts in her decisions and actions. It works for the plot for Elena to be independent at a young age, but her character takes hits for her inconsistency. Well, teenagers/young adults are often inconsistent with their behavior because they lack the experience and wisdom necessary to make good, firm decisions. And Elena is a perfect example of that. She is known for her indecisive behavior, much to the annoyance of the audience. Her inability to choose between the brothers shows a lack of understanding of whom she truly is and what she needs in a partner. With time everything will seem clearer, but for now, she's still in that process of self-discovery.
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Post by crimmyj on Aug 31, 2014 16:09:29 GMT -5
technically there is suppose to be a 6 year age difference between the two characters right? isn't damon suppose to be 24 I was speaking more about Damon's life experience as an immortal "adult", which far out weighs Elena's. He should be a lot more mature than he is now. Sort of the way Stefan is. Which just goes to show how little he has changed over the years. His reactions (tantrums) are a clear lack of maturity on his part. He has the same "daddy didn't love me enough" issues at his core that Klaus has. This is kind of why I have always believed that the people who are best equipped to help these characters are their brothers (Elijah and Stefan) because better than anyone they have an understanding at why their brothers do what they do. The Originals do a much better job cultivating the brother dynamic than TVD has been doing. Which is a damn shame, imho.
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Post by jennifer on Aug 31, 2014 16:22:22 GMT -5
You're right. For all the crap people spew at Elena and her relationship with Damon, they tend to leave out one important fact: she's a teenage girl! And because she's a teenage and not a grown woman, she's going to make mistakes. A lot of them! Damon is the one that should know better. He's the real "adult" (using that term lightly) in the relationship. technically there is suppose to be a 6 year age difference between the two characters right? isn't damon suppose to be 24 He's 25 in the TV series according to VD wiki. Born in 1839. To be nitpicky.
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Post by demetra on Aug 31, 2014 22:07:36 GMT -5
Right, jennifer, technically Damon is 173 years old.
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Post by jennifer on Sept 1, 2014 10:04:57 GMT -5
Right, jennifer, technically Damon is 173 years old. Que? Not sure if you mean his age when turned doesn't matter, we should only assess him in vampire years? If we go down that road, then Stefan is way too old for Elena too!
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Post by demetra on Sept 1, 2014 10:40:56 GMT -5
Right, jennifer, technically Damon is 173 years old. Que? Not sure if you mean his age when turned doesn't matter, we should only assess him in vampire years? If we go down that road, then Stefan is way too old for Elena too! Haha, yes, as was Edward for Bella, who was BTW modelled on Stefan with Elena. One of the issues impacting the TV series of TVD that more minimally affected Twilight is that, unlike their characters, the actors don't stop aging. But even within the world of the story Stefan and Damon only look young. Stefan was a relief driver in World War Two. He adapted himself entirely to Elena's world for the purposes of pursuing a relationship with her: I had to know her. Now he's psychologically held there because everything that has happened to her, her family, and the town is a consequence -- in his mind -- of that one decision? Because the context of their relationship brought him back there and then held him there. When Elena turned, he stayed until she survived the transition. Last year he was held there against his will for a good part of the time and then stuck there being bled over and over. Now what would hold him even nearby? He can't get into his house, but surely he has an ATM card and can get to one of his family's many fortunes. If there is no supernatural reason holding him to Mystic Falls, why wouldn't he be in Atlanta, or New Orleans, or Paris? It is Elena, and Caroline, maybe Jeremy and Matt. IMHO we don't see much of that on screen because the series hasn't come to grips with the fact that Stefan and Damon, and now Elena, are immortal. TVD avoids their immortality by introducing other supernaturals to keep trying to kill them. Wow, jennifer, I digressed there. Sorry!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 14:36:12 GMT -5
Right, jennifer, technically Damon is 173 years old. Que? Not sure if you mean his age when turned doesn't matter, we should only assess him in vampire years? If we go down that road, then Stefan is way too old for Elena too! Yeah, but at-least Stefan acts his age. Kind of. lol
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Post by deb on Sept 1, 2014 16:50:28 GMT -5
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